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R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:53 PM
Kap is not as good as he looks.... A great team will make a player look much better than he is... Except for Smiff, he has natural talent

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9539178)
He has Steve Smith.
:facepalm:

A soon to be 34 year old is Newton's best receiver.

R8RFAN 03-29-2013 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9539179)
I'm still confused? PGM promised me the Jaguars were getting Flynn. Was he lying to me or is he just a dumb fat **** redneck?
He gets his brain stuck on shit from time to time and just can't think about anything else

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9539179)
I'm still confused? PGM promised me the Jaguars were getting Flynn. Was he lying to me or is he just a dumb fat **** redneck?
I did? I don't know about all that. Stop fibbing Cockmon.

BigMeatballDave 03-29-2013 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539169)
Uh, no.

Especially when you consider their ages.

Are you telling us that Newton wouldn't have 4,000 yard plus seasons in Denver, New England or New Orleans? Are you familiar with the WR's in Carolina?

If Newton were in Denver with Thomas, Welker and Decker, he'd be closer to 4,500 yards per season, if not 5,000. He doesn't have dick in Carolina and has averaged 4,000 his first two seasons.
It's possible you may be overrating Cam a little bit.

IMO, the great ones make the players around them better.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9539177)
fair enough and if I had gone down the entire list Newton would be about on par in my mind with kapernick.


But their sample sizes are too small at this point to put them up there at the top of the heap
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The other way to look at it is that he's started just 10 games and nearly won the Super Bowl.

Bad coaching lost it for them on that final drive.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 9539189)
It's possible you may be overrating Cam a little bit.

IMO, the great ones make the players around them better.
That's what he's done.

The Panthers don't have jackshit for perimeter players (or a defense), yet he's averaged 4,000 yards his first two seasons and is responsible for 62 touchdowns.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by R8ers (Post 9539186)
He gets his brain stuck on shit from time to time and just can't think about anything else
The Faid have my full attention now. I don't see much future success with that regime.

BossChief 03-29-2013 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539094)
Wow, who knew that Kaepernick was a dual-threat QB?

:facepalm:
dumbass

Kaepernick had 1814 yards in 7 starts...260/y/g

Alex had 1737 in 9 starts...193y/g

That's before we add in the rushing difference.

That's also the difference between a franchise qb and a game manager.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539205)
The Faid have my full attention now. I don't see much future success with that regime.
The Chargers and Raiders will suck for the foreseeable future.

Pasta Little Brioni 03-29-2013 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539213)
The Chargers and Raiders will suck for the foreseeable future.
So, you are saying that Reighters shouldn't have put that new Flynn jersey on his credit card :)

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9539211)
dumbass

Kaepernick had 1814 yards in 7 starts...260/y/g

Alex had 1737 in 9 starts...193y/g

That's before we add in the rushing difference.

That's also the difference between a franchise qb and a game manager.
Oh, just shut the **** up.

Kaepernick is CLEARLY the better QB. Who argued otherwise?

Dr. Van Halen 03-29-2013 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9539058)
Knowing what we now know about Colin Kaepernick (and what Jim Harbaugh knew before anyone else), which QB's in the NFL would you start over him?
Mr. McCloud,
Do we really know much about Kaepernak? Is it possible his success was due to the fact no one had film on him? Did it almost seem like teams were figuring him out -- especially in the Super Bowl?

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9539227)
So, you are saying that Reighters shouldn't have put that new Flynn jersey on his credit card :)
LMAO

They just gave up draft picks for another QB, even though they just gave up picks for Palmer and are without a high second this year.

They have a below average offensive line, no WR's, no RB's worth a crap and no TE. I'd be shocked if Dennis Allen is their coach in 2014 because despite the fact he looked overmatched last year, I don't know if they can sell another 1-4 win season to their fans.

DaneMcCloud 03-29-2013 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Van Halen (Post 9539241)
Mr. McCloud,
Do we really know much about Kaepernak? Is it possible his success was due to the fact no one had film on him? Did it almost seem like teams were figuring him out -- especially in the Super Bowl?
He put up 31 points against the Ravens defense and nearly won the game for them on that final drive, so no, I don't think anyone has figured him out yet.

When a guy can run for a 50 yard TD as easily as throwing for one, he's going to be difficult to stop.


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