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CapsLockKey 09-03-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10876095)
In two years Wilson has 8 regular season fourth quarter comebacks and 10 game winning drives. Plus another 2 postseason 4th quarter comebacks and game winning drives.

In, what is it 8 or 9 years of Alex Smith?, he has 11 4th quarter comebacks and 13 game winning drives.

Wilson is "managing" a lot better than Smith.

So if Wilson was on the Cleveland Browns instead of Seattle do you honestly think he'd have the same success? He has been gifted with an elite roster his entire two years. He's a decent QB on a great team.

Not saying he won't develop into a great one, but to this point he hasn't proven shit other than he can ride a herculean defensive team that can run it down your throat to a championship just like Roethlisburger did to his first ring. The only young guy who looks the part right now of future elite QB is Luck.

ThaVirus 09-03-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 10876353)
Clark has his pulse on KC nation. This poll shows it's much safer for KC to keep grabbing a veteran than draft a young player. Foles has a great year and 2/3 of KC fans don't think he's very good. Manning has two Super Bowl rings and half the fans don't think he's very good.


Peyton's only got 1 Super Bowl ring, partna.

Sweet Daddy Hate 09-03-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace (Post 10876402)
Who should alex Chuck it to?

Last year speaking.

Bowe? Fasano? He didn't have ladarius greene, keenan allen, gates.

Gotta have weapons

PRINCIPAL, MANG!

Pablo 09-03-2014 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10876440)
Peyton's only got 1 Super Bowl ring, partna.

Eli.

htismaqe 09-03-2014 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 10876430)
So if Wilson was on the Cleveland Browns instead of Seattle do you honestly think he'd have the same success? He has been gifted with an elite roster his entire two years. He's a decent QB on a great team.

Wilson has superb intangibles, a very high football IQ, and elite accuracy. He's far from just "decent". The only reason he fell is because of his height.

BigBeauford 09-03-2014 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChargers (Post 10876049)
The "fantasy football" excuse is so tired and played-out, it's not even funny. People want to see their QB throw it downfield not for fantasy points but because doing so keeps defenses honest and can lead to either big plays or PI calls that keep the chains moving. You know, things that actually win football games.

Yeah, or you know, because watching a quarterback stretch the field and sling the ball around is a metric **** ton more fun to watch than the product Smith produces. He is just not an entertaining football player, and fun to watch is half the equation when people decide to spend 3+ hours a week watching football.

Mav 09-03-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10876453)
Wilson has superb intangibles, a very high football IQ, and elite accuracy. He's far from just "decent". The only reason he fell is because of his height.

All of this

Kaepernick 09-03-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10876453)
Wilson has superb intangibles, a very high football IQ, and elite accuracy. He's far from just "decent". The only reason he fell is because of his height.

Yep! But he was also completely beneath most GM's radar. Even Pete Carroll did not want John Schneider to draft Wilson. Schneider was in a a tiny group of GMs that saw Wilson's potential, and even he was shocked at Wilson's rookie year, saying he would be lying if he were to say he expected that.

Wilson is the real deal and is soaring. The kid has elite potential. Time will tell if he gets there. Another Drew Brees perhaps, but who knows? It will take some time to see his ceiling. 20-25 teams would be better off with Wilson than the QB they have.

CapsLockKey 09-03-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10876453)
Wilson has superb intangibles, a very high football IQ, and elite accuracy. He's far from just "decent". The only reason he fell is because of his height.

Those are at least better arguments than "he has a ring and Smith doesn't".

crazycoffey 09-03-2014 01:41 PM

Wow, 77 posters would rather have tony romo?

Chief Roundup 09-03-2014 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10875947)
Why don't rushing yards count when that's a huge part of how the position is played in today's nfl?

It's a pussy move IMO to discredit any way he moves the ball.

Rushing yards is a statistical category for RBs not for QBs. It is not an accurate measure of what a QB is doing. QB is all about the passing yards. Sure there are a few QBs that get the occasional paly for them to run actually called but that is not the case most of the time. I doubt it is ever the case for Smith. A QB is suppose to throw or hand it off other than in times when the play breaks down. His rushing yardage shows that he has enough speed to actual save a broken play but he is not being called on to haul the rock.
I find it to be disingenuous to lump them all together knowing that most people would assume those were passing yards solely based on the way you stated those numbers.

Rausch 09-03-2014 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 10876532)
Sure there are a few QBs that get the occasional paly for them to run actually called but that is not the case most of the time. I doubt it is ever the case for Smith.

You didn't watch last year then.

There were a number of designed runs for Smith last year. Most of them early in the game...

Chiefnj2 09-03-2014 02:06 PM

. found the link

Chiefnj2 09-03-2014 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by CapsLockKey (Post 10876475)
Those are at least better arguments than "he has a ring and Smith doesn't".

To achieve as much success as he has in two years you have to have talent and be able to make throws and lead the team.

John Dope 09-03-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 10876453)
Wilson has superb intangibles, a very high football IQ, and elite accuracy. He's far from just "decent". The only reason he fell is because of his height.

He actually went about two rounds earlier than the talking heads predicted. He had seven 4th quarter comebacks / game winning drives in his senior year at Wisconsin. That's the kind of shit the GMs and HCs like. It's part of the reason why Bortles went before Bridgewater and Manziel.


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