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Bye bye Gordon (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=295878)

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11867227)

I'm confident the payroll is going to get to $135-140 million (Moore may try to leave himself some wiggle room for a midseason acquisition). They're going to be around $97 million for 17 players if they get the payback from Vargas' insurance. That would give them around $30-40 million to work with to fill LF/RF/1 SP/1 extra player IF they go with minimum guys to fill a few bullpen spots (Michael Mariot, Brian Flynn), to fill UTIL IF (Colon) and 5th OF (Orlando).

I think that leaves enough cash to get a Gordon/Zobrist + a Mike Leake or Yovani Gallardo level SP and perhaps enough to bring back Chris Young as the swing guy, too.

If you go Zobrist, it may be enough to pick up a guy like Gerrardo Parra or Dexter Fowler to play LF, too (I know Fowler has been a slightly negative defender in CF, but his D would play up/play fine in LF).

I'm thinking $130,000,000 to start the season with room to add $10-$12,000,000 more down the stretch. If your scenario is close to true (and I think it may well be), that's absolutely a roster that can compete for a championship for 2 more years.

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 11867238)

Doubt Young comes back, but you never know...

To me, he's kind of the opposite of Gordon and Zobrist in that he has traits that the Royals value but other teams see as a liability. I'd love to see him become our crafty pitcher that just gets better with age. He's just such a great fit for our team and park.

John Jaso is another guy I kind of covet... Not sure his D is good enough for the Royals to consider him as the backup C, but he'd be a great backup option for Perez.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11867305)

John Jaso is another guy I kind of covet... Not sure his D is good enough for the Royals to consider him as the backup C, but he'd be a great backup option for Perez.

Isn't he the guy that hit us pretty well this year? Switch hitting catchers are ALWAYS nice to have

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Originally Posted by 58-4ever (Post 11867238)

Doubt Young comes back, but you never know...

I don't know, many teams might not covet "crafty" as much as the smaller market teams like the Royals need to.

I want him back, it's good to have a guy like that to switch things up.

I really hope to see Gordon back-winning Gold Gloves for the next five years. He brings so much to this team.

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 11867305)

John Jaso is another guy I kind of covet... Not sure his D is good enough for the Royals to consider him as the backup C, but he'd be a great backup option for Perez.

Would love Jaso. Not sure he's willing to be a full time backup at this point. Would really have to sell him on a shot to win a ring and probably have to overpay.

So zobrist has said that Gordo would be the priority and he should be. But he would love it if they (him and his family) could come back. Let's hope it happens.

KC played pretty well without Gordon. I think we'd be ok again.

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11867527)

KC played pretty well without Gordon. I think we'd be ok again.

An argument could easily be made we don't win the world series without Gordon.

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 11867539)

An argument could easily be made we don't win the world series without Gordon.

Pure speculation.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 11867541)

Pure speculation.

Well yes. But so is thinking a stretch last season means we would do the same without him over a whole season. We can't undermine his importance because of that stretch.

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Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 11867466)

Would love Jaso. Not sure he's willing to be a full time backup at this point. Would really have to sell him on a shot to win a ring and probably have to overpay.

He'd be a better fit if they didn't have a dedicated DH in Morales, so you could get his bat in the lineup more often. But yeah, I love the plate discipline/approach. Have for a while.

It'd certainly be nice to be able to rest Perez more. Him and Herrera/Davis have logged a ton of extra miles the last two years because we've played so late into the year. I'm guessing Ned goes easy on all three for stretches next year.