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Discuss Thrower 09-18-2016 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12432353)
Simms, Pennington and Nelson?
Hasselbeck, Kosar and the choice of one of the guys who were on a SB winning team.

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2016 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12432448)
I love the part where it's always "the team fell short" with these transplanted nut-huggers when the Chiefs lose, but when Smith pulls the magical 8-ball game of the ages from his ass, it's "See(?) he was elite all along! Get on board"!
That's not really it. Two things are happening now that didn't before.

1. Smith is more comfortable and improved in this yr 4 scheme.
2. The players around him aren't screwing up at critical moments.

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12432448)
I don't care if you win.

I don't care if you lose.
So to clarify, you are no longer a Chiefs fan, and no longer care what happens with them? all because of Smith?

Sandy Vagina 09-18-2016 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 12431831)
Whoa... Nobody who wins 3 Super Bowls is a jag.

My point is that you can't bemoan Alex Smiths stats as empirical evidence of his suckage and then say Aikman is above reproach when he had Terrible stats his entire career.

This is what happens when you want to speak in absolutes and be able to quantify what is inherently unquantifiable.
right. This is all I was alluding to. I think Aikman and Elway were pretty good, but not vastly superior or beyond reproach. Fans just need some QBs to prop of and fantasize as "amazing HOFers."

They were and are still overrated.

RunKC 09-18-2016 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12431516)
LMAO

Hell, you don't even know what you're watching now, let alone 24 years ago, when you were 10.

LMAO
Alex took a giant shit all over clay last weekend so of course Clay is moving the goal posts by comparing him to a HOF QB.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-18-2016 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12432558)
Alex took a giant shit all over clay last weekend so of course Clay is moving the goal posts by comparing him to a HOF QB.
So much truth.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-18-2016 09:09 AM
The thing that confuses me is when I post aikman and elway's stats to show how similar (or even worse) than they are to Smith's, you get a select few who get all dramatic as if I'm comparing him to Rodgers, Peyton, or Montana. There are a gluttony of QB's that have won a SB playing far worse football than Smith but the only rhetoric I hear from clay and his fellow imbeciles is how he isn't on the level of Rodgers as if that is what is holding us back.

Bunch of damn fools!

jjchieffan 09-18-2016 09:14 AM
Clay, Since you went thru the trouble, create a chart of elway and aikmans stats and put them adjacent to Smith's so we can see if Alex is really a fraud like you claim

jjchieffan 09-18-2016 09:16 AM
Clay you forgot to post his W-L record. You know, that thing that we use to determine which teams advance to the playoffs.

jjchieffan 09-18-2016 09:17 AM
Good job Tigeruppercut. Clay refuses to answer your. That's because he knows that he can't answer you with any amount of credibility. He's wrong.

BossChief 09-18-2016 09:18 AM
This could quite possibly be a career defining year for Alex.

The team needs him to step up to compensate for the little dropoff we might have on defense and it seems Alex is responding to the situation.

Today is a huge test for him, as will next week. These are 2 top 5 defenses and we will need Alex to be on his A game to have a chance at winning.

It's gonna be fun to see how well Alex plays today.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-18-2016 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12432582)
This could quite possibly be a career defining year for Alex.

The team needs him to step up to compensate for the little dropoff we might have on defense and it seems Alex is responding to the situation.

Today is a huge test for him, as will next week. These are 2 top 5 defenses and we will need Alex to be on his A game to have a chance at winning.

It's gonna be fun to see how well Alex plays today.
The odds might be against us but as you said, I want to see this offense keep it competitive in the event our defense gets gashed.

MTG#10 09-18-2016 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 12432489)
You mean like Kurt Warner. A product of "The Greatest Show on Turf" offense. Green was not nearly as productive as Warner in that same offense.
When Green had a less than All Pro OL at all positions he was given the moniker of TrINT because his play was so atrocious. Green never even won a playoff game in that offense.
They are different types of QBs that played in different offensive schemes but Green was in that same offense for most of his entire career. He never had to go through the coordinator, head coach carousel that Smith has had to endure.

Greens first three years with the Chiefs 11,512 yards 67 TD 49 INT
Smiths first three years with the Chiefs 10,064 yards 61 TD 20 INT

Oh yeah Green was such a better QB than Smith. He did so much more while being in the most prolific offense that the NFL has probably ever seen.
:facepalm:

Green was one of the reasons it was "the most prolific offense the NFL has ever seen".

From 2002-2005 Green threw for over 16k yards and 94 TD's with about an 8 yard/pass average. He was an actual QB who made QB throws, not a game manager. And Green never won a playoff game because we had arguably the worst defense the NFL has ever seen.

Easy 6 09-18-2016 10:18 AM
This thread turned out exactly like I thought it would... just awful

The only thing I intend to add to it is this... as much as I hated the 90s Cowboys, the Aikman hate in here is a bit much. As Milkman correctly pointed out, Aikman threw one of the best looking, most catchable footballs of all time

He could make every deep throw with accuracy AND touch

Discuss Thrower 09-18-2016 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12432577)
Clay you forgot to post his W-L record. You know, that thing that we use to determine which teams advance to the playoffs.
"It's not Alex's fault. The O-line / WRs / defense / coaching sucks."

* someone posts stats that depict Smith's career as a little bit above an average QB *

"The only stat that matters is wins and losses!"

TigeRRUppeRRcut 09-18-2016 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 12432680)
This thread turned out exactly like I thought it would... just awful

The only thing I intend to add to it is this... as much as I hated the 90s Cowboys, the Aikman hate in here is a bit much. As Milkman correctly pointed out, Aikman threw one of the best looking, most catchable footballs of all time

He could make every deep throw with accuracy AND touch
With his career 61% completion percentage and 199 yards/game?? really???
Have you looked at Montana and Young's highlights and numbers?
Outside of a handful the QB competition in that decade was absolutely god awful.


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