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Mav 11-01-2016 07:20 PM

I really want the Chiefs to start Foles. I really really do.

Dartgod 11-01-2016 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12522379)
except for the 12 years of tape and stats of alex smith and the 5 years of tape and stats of foles....

is it concrete evidence? no. Is everyone saying to start Foles now? no.

People are saying his ceiling is higher and his floor is lower..and that the safest best bet this season is to roll with ALex...

What would you like as 'proof' ? Math? A thesis?

What stats are those? Outside of his 2013 year, they are pretty dismal.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-01-2016 07:34 PM

He should have shut down Taco Bell, ordered 178 tacos, and ate himself in to a coma.

Would have been more productive.

Psyko Tek 11-01-2016 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12520020)
If foles lights it up vs jax and we still put smith back in we absolutely deserve to have a offensive meltdown the likes of the steelers game again

I remember Elvis, he was sexy

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-01-2016 07:55 PM

Nick Foles:

http://vh1.mtvnimages.com/uri/mgid:f...1438963794.gif

Alex Smith:

http://cdn.smosh.com/sites/default/f...ancefail-6.gif

underEJ 11-01-2016 08:00 PM

I don't think just because some of us aren't jumping immediately on the Foles bandwagon that it means we are afraid. It just isn't as obvious as past QB situations have been here. I was 100% for Gannon starting over Grbac. I was 100% for starting anyone over Matt Cassel. But sitting here at 5-2, with a developing team situation where the defense has great stretches, but is clearly missing core features, and has stretches that make me cry, having an offense that protects the ball is a very good thing. Did I like Foles? Yes. Will I be happy to see him if Smith isn't healthy? Yes, what a luxury. Am I ready to cast Smith out? No. I may change my tune if I get to see Foles more and his risks are demonstrated to be less than anticipated, but I'm not going to be upset either if Smith starts this week and we keep on the current course. That's not being afraid. That is being really happy we have two nice QBs, neither one of whom are likely ever going to be a top 10 talent, so I'm not going to drool over either one of them.

stevieray 11-01-2016 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by underEJ (Post 12522613)
I don't think just because some of us aren't jumping immediately on the Foles bandwagon that it means we are afraid. It just isn't as obvious as past QB situations have been here. I was 100% for Gannon starting over Grbac. I was 100% for starting anyone over Matt Cassel. But sitting here at 5-2, with a developing team situation where the defense has great stretches, but is clearly missing core features, and has stretches that make me cry, having an offense that protects the ball is a very good thing. Did I like Foles? Yes. Will I be happy to see him if Smith isn't healthy? Yes, what a luxury. Am I ready to cast Smith out? No. I may change my tune if I get to see Foles more and his risks are demonstrated to be less than anticipated, but I'm not going to be upset either if Smith starts this week and we keep on the current course. That's not being afraid. That is being really happy we have two nice QBs, neither one of whom are likely ever going to be a top 10 talent, so I'm not going to drool over either one of them.

spot on

stevieray 11-01-2016 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagnabit (Post 12522607)

IIRC, isn't that guy dead?

Ming the Merciless 11-01-2016 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 12522566)
What stats are those? Outside of his 2013 year, they are pretty dismal.

Thats not what I found....look at the numbers..and thats with a god awful 2012 PHI team AND the horrid 2015 lambs. These are career stats. If foles is "god awful" pray tell, what is smith?

You mean these stats?


Comp %

60.5 vs 61.3

TD %

4.4 vs 3.9

INT%

2.2% vs 2.2%

YPC

11.9 vs 11.0

YPA

7.2 vs 6.7

YPG

225 vs 195

QBR

88 vs 85

Sack %

5.5 vs 8.1

Dartgod 11-01-2016 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underEJ (Post 12522613)
I don't think just because some of us aren't jumping immediately on the Foles bandwagon that it means we are afraid. It just isn't as obvious as past QB situations have been here. I was 100% for Gannon starting over Grbac. I was 100% for starting anyone over Matt Cassel. But sitting here at 5-2, with a developing team situation where the defense has great stretches, but is clearly missing core features, and has stretches that make me cry, having an offense that protects the ball is a very good thing. Did I like Foles? Yes. Will I be happy to see him if Smith isn't healthy? Yes, what a luxury. Am I ready to cast Smith out? No. I may change my tune if I get to see Foles more and his risks are demonstrated to be less than anticipated, but I'm not going to be upset either if Smith starts this week and we keep on the current course. That's not being afraid. That is being really happy we have two nice QBs, neither one of whom are likely ever going to be a top 10 talent, so I'm not going to drool over either one of them.

BUT TEH DEEEEP THROWS!!!

Ming the Merciless 11-01-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 12522656)
BUT TEH DEEEEP THROWS!!!

Better yards per game, yards per attempt, sacks per drop back, touchdown %, quarterback rating, yards per completion

all while maintaining a similar completion % and int % rate

Dartgod 11-01-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 12522624)
Thats not what I found....look at the numbers..and thats with a god awful 2012 PHI team AND the horrid 2015 lambs. These are career stats. If foles is "god awful" pray tell, what is smith?

Sooo, not a real huge difference between the two. Dismal may have been too strong of a description. And I never said "god awful"

Bob Dole 11-01-2016 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by oaklandhater (Post 12522081)
Alex been godawful this season you can't blame people for wanting a qb who can bomb it deep

As long as those people are primarily concerned with Fantasy points and not W-L record.

All 8 of you.

Ming the Merciless 11-01-2016 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 12522665)
Sooo, not a real huge difference between the two. Dismal may have been too strong of a description. And I never said "god awful"

oh sorry , you said "dismal"

and yes theres a difference in most of the stats, with foles having better stats with very little downside...

so again, if Foles has been 'dismal' how would you describe SMith after comparing them side by side and asking "what stats?" and been showed the stats...

DaneMcCloud 11-01-2016 08:37 PM

There isn't even ONE person who's judgment I'd trust before Andy Reid.


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