This... KU wilted under the pressure. Never changed the game to favor KU until it was way to late...

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All kidding aside, man... I know that had to hurt.

Nothin' personal.

None actually taking...

I have a bag of salt and nothing to do with it, so...

Why didn't KU start the pressure earlier? UNI looked embarrassing inbounding the ball, and KU was dominating the game as soon as they started real pressure. A free three pointer aside and this game turns out different.

I also preemptively apologize for this being talked about before, but you know...

Wait, didn't you just say "choke... again".... seems like it happens quite a bit. :p

Eh, outside of the in-game trolling during a game like this and the texts I received in the first few minutes after the game, I don't care. I guess there's a line with taking a game too seriously, just like there's a line with rubbing it in after a loss. It's the people who don't give you 10 freakin' minutes to get over it before rubbing it in who are annoying, and I did tell one MU friend to go f*** herself because of a text she sent 5 minutes after the game. Again, with those lines....

Wait, I thought you were a Pitt Gorilla fan.

Creighton plays Nebraska every year. Travel doesn't cost much for either school. ;)

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That' fucking scared me. I have my volume all the way up not playing anything. Freaked everybody out! I'd rather be rick rolled

Not so much anymore. They were my undergrad institution when I joined the board 10 years ago.

UNI plays Iowa and Iowa State every year. We also play either Iowa or ISU in football every year (I think).

Yea, UNI didn't win, KU "overlooked them".

That woudn't have happend if Doc Sadler was the coach.

I hate the doublespeak... the underdog gets all the credit in the world for being good until they actually beat someone, then it's all on the favorite for choking.

Explain how it is better for the Big 12?

Better for the Valley? Sure, I get that.

You can bet your last dollar (and this thread is proof positive) that you won't hear anybody say Jacobsen coached an incredible game. He did. But if you coach really, really, really really hard and lose, then you're an X/O genius.

To be fair, it's not you. You know that. The usual suspects who do that can be counted as absent when it hits the fan. (Hi Ari.)

LMAO

Good point. Where the **** is Ari?

If I know Ari, and I think I do.... He's elbow deep in a 5 gallon tub of chocolate chip ice cream. LMAO

I knew they would lose because they had a bad week of practice. This game will be a lesson though and next year they'll kick ass.

He posted on Facebook that he is at a "spiritual retreat".

ROFL

Wow, just listened to Coach Self after the game addressing the media. What a smooth operator and classy guy. Sure he has the but and ums in there, but such a genuine guy and knows just what to say. I couldn't ask for a better figurehead to speak to the media after games.

LMAO

I love that guy.

The music in this thread kinda fits.

Do you currently attend UNI or something?

Aripuss? Where you at?

I watch N. Iowa a few times this year they should have been seeded higher than a 9. They should have been an 5 or 6. Congratz to them on a win. Looking forward to the rest of the tourny and next year.

A couple of thoughts:

Very unfortunate that Sherron Collins had to end his career like that. He played one of the worst games in his 4 years here, and it was ultimately his turnovers and awful shots that cost the team the game (among other things). Somehow I always feared this would be the way it would go down...he always tried to do too much and it really hurt sometimes. A great career, but I will never remember him as a clutch player like Chalmers was.

Bill Self should have gone to the press earlier in the 2nd half. He allowed UNI to run down numerous possessions, and even though they were mostly missing the shots (as expected), it was the time lost that really killed KU. If you press that team of unathletic guys, they would undoubtedly falter (and probably quickly). Self attempted to stick with what worked all season far longer than he should have, and while that wasn't a bad strategy defensively overall...he didn't take into account that a 10 point lead in a slow, low possession game like that is much more than a 10 point lead in a fast paced, high possession game. A few more minutes and KU would have won...but they ran out of time. I put that on Self.

They also didn't go down low nearly enough. I'm not sure whether to blame Self or the terrible guard play of Collins and Taylor for that. If you allow the Morrises/Aldrich to work that team down every possession, it's a different result.

And the bottomline here....like many times this season, KU didn't come to play in the 1st half with any effort. They got down too far in the 1st half against a very good defensive team and it proved to be too much for them. This was where the 2007-2008 team topped them....they blew teams out early and never looked back. They were also more polished on both ends of the floor and had superior leadership. They deserved that title...this team didn't come to play when it counted.

Also, in a one-and-done tournament, this is just the way it goes sometimes. Even though they were the best team this year (or close), it's very hard to expect anybody to win it all (after all, 64 teams go home unhappy), and I certainly didn't. But losing in the 2nd round like this is like a serious punch in the gut. Sigh...at least baseball is starting up...

Also, congrats to UNI and their coach. They had a very good strategy, and even though their talent was vastly inferior they pulled it out....that's a credit to their mental toughness. I still can't believe that Ali guy had the balls to take that last shot. If he misses that, they probably lose, and the coach is pissed at him. But he made it. So clutch.

I'll be cheering for KSU the rest of the tournament (I like and respect their players), but they'll likely be going down at some point in the next 2 weeks. Everybody except the champion ends the season unhappily, whether you lose in the 2nd round or in the final. It's all very crushing, I've found.

Been up for about an hour. God this sucks.

Yeah, but its not like its the end of the world....

KU will rebound and be back.

Yeah, that was a "NOOOO.... YES!!!" moment, for sure.

Have to give them props... They beat KU at their own game... While KU stood there and took it in the ass.....

KU never adjusted until it was too late...

Pretty good post. I'm pretty much in agreement. I thought surely the team SOMEWHERE in the season would have realized that coming out slow is terrible, but they didn't.

Agree. We have talked about it all year... Sure the 30+ season was fun. But it was rare that this team dick stomped someone..

They half assed it way too much and it caught up to them.

Irony. My brother in law is the sports editor for the Waterloo Courier that covers the Panthers. He came down this year to see KU/Cornell with us and told us KU would curgb stomp UNI because of KU's athleticism. My wife and I are both UNI grads as well but since our son goes to KU we were rooting for KU the whole way and now have lost numerous bets to our family up north.
I agree that too often this year we played down to our competition and didn't find the extra gear early enough. Tough loss.

Mo Valley gets no respect. None. I still think Creightons woes were somewhat brought on by the total dis involved by not getting a NCAA bid last year after going 28-7 in the regular season. Got knocked out by Kentucky in OT at home in the 2nd rnd in the NIT to end the year. Doesn't look too bad now in hindsight. And as shitty a year as Creighton had their still at it in the CIT tourney.
But I'm proud of NIU :thumb:

The double edged sword with pressing for a long time to get caught up in a game like this is you tire yourself out trying to get even, that when you finally do, you're out of gas and can't put it over the top. I know KU has depth and all, but Self clearly never trusted that depth, especially in what amounted to the last game.

That 3 with 30 seconds left was the daggerfor us and huge lift for them. You could start to see the UNI players doubting themselves when our inbounds pressure turned them over a few times and brought us to within 1.

In return a win wouldn't do anything to improve their RPI

They made 3's, even with players that don't normally make shoot/make 3's

Kansas couldn't hit any 3's

UNI got a bunch of long rebounds and second chances. Scored a lot when the shot clock was low. That alone can take the wind out of you defensively.

Kansas was careless with the ball all throughout the game.

Kansas got into foul trouble early in the game. Sent UNI who's a good FT shooting team to the line a lot in the first 10 min.

Kansas just played like shit against a team that couldn't miss.

Self choked once again against a smaller school. If it weren't for 2008...his ass would be fired for this.

I wish Como would stop writing down his thoughts. Particularly his thoughts about basketball. Who agrees?

I think it's important that we get these thoughts archived. Future generations need to be able to point and laugh.

I think Kansas could do better.

Might be time to look around and see who else is out there.

No. It's entertaining.

ROFL

I think it's safe to say that ROYC75's mojo is pretty ****ing dead. No more threads for you.

So what does Michigan State need to focus on to win against Northern Iowa? I think that the game will not get over 100 total points, unless NI has blown their wad already and MSU takes them to school. Any thoughts?

"Kansas got screwed if your really watched the TWO ways that games was called on either end....you do not have to manufacture upsets NCAA....its sad that in a year that would have had a lot of upsets anyway one upset is tainted by HORIBLE officiating in the Kansas game....watch that game and see if you can figure out what those reffs thought a charge was....collins was sliding to the outside when the UNI player moved come one!"
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There's an ignore button for that. You should try using it.

Meh, it's not the thread! As I told Skip this very same thing 2 years ago. It's just not the thread, it's the players, always have and always will be.

Find something else to nitpick on!

Can someone kick Hamas's ass for adding that sound.

Still embracing the Saulenfreude?

UNI got a huge break with Lucas out, but they are still a more talented team than UNI, plus they have the coaching and experience edge. I don't think UNI "blew their wad" -- I think they played their type of game on Saturday.

Also, Michigan St might want to put the full court press early.

It's a hilarious video. That Morris reerun still bawling, claiming how they'd beat UNI 100 times.

Wow, way to take joy in seeing a kid's soul being crushed. It's OK, he'll be sticking around to clown KSU some more.

Forgive Saul,no matter how wrong it may be to the rest of the world, he lives in a perfect world by himself when all he does is correct.

I would love that. Tulsa might have a shot at getting him back then. :)

It's not the thread huh? Then why did your dumbass rush out and make game threads 2-3 days in advance. That shit was the attention whoringest shit I've ever seen. It was bad mojo, IMO. Very bad.

yeah....Trav, I was just thinking that too as our beloved Jayhawks choked: "damn it, Roy....it's all YOUR fault the team played like total horseshit."

Embarassing for KU isn't it? The height of poor sportsmanship is saying you are better than the team that just beat you.
Oh really? Guess what? You didn't get it done when it counted now you go home.
So tell me, who is the better team? That's right, the team that won.

Yeah, I know it wasn't all ROY's fault, but it was annoying as ****. Seriously ****ing annoying.

Is Saul a KSU troll or what? LOL

Did he say it to the media, or did he say it when he was emotional destraught after the game and the camera happened to get it?

What's the difference?

Just a guess, but I think he said it to the media. The camera was right in front of him, minus the super duper TMZ ultra zoom.

There isn't any. He wasn't talking to his opponent when he said it, thus sportsmanship doesn't even apply here. He's a kid in an emotional abyss at that point, he's liable to say whatever. He thinks he can beat UNI 100 times if they played them again, he's probably close, too.

You are of the opinion that poor sportsmanship can only be exhibited when directly addressing an opponent?

Talking shit about a team that just took you down only and always makes you look even worse; or so we were coached. I'm embarassed for the kid but not willing to make excuses for him.

He wasn't talking shit on the team, though. I agree with him, as probably does the vast majority, that KU is a better team.

No, KU is not a better team. The winner of a head-to-head match up is the better team.
UNI has scoreboard. KU has ifs-and-buts and woulda-shoulda-coulda.

IMHOWhen you lose you give the opponent credit, suck it up and get to work on fixing what caused you to lose. You don't cry about the refs and how you are really a better team unless you are a poor sport.

I guess we just disagree on the concept of sportsmanship and how you should handle a loss. Doesn't make either one of us wrong.
Cheers.

Heh.

One of the very best.

From Fallon's Twitter...

"Healthcare passed, Tiger did 2 interviews, and Kansas lost. So if you’re a Republican slut in Topeka…you had a bad weekend."

HAHAHA... ROY's panties are in a bunch. Good, **** you Attention Whore.

*** KU vs N. Iowa, Rd #... 03-22-2010 02:12 PM ROYC75 Sweet, the school girl cry baby shows up, stick your foot in your mouth, pay attention kid, it's the players,not the thread. Always will be.

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I noticed on several KU message boards that the Farokhmansh is being referred to as the "The little terrorist".

That's pretty good.

In my book, huge difference. If he said it to the press conference, then I agree, that isn't very smart. If he was TMZ'd and didn't know that the camera was capturing his audio. I don't blame him. I'd feel that way too, and it was in the heat of an emotional loss.

Truth be told, KU would probably get beat by UNI 1 or 2 times every 10 games, not in 100 games. But still, he has a point, and the kid was just disappointed that they lost to a team they were supposed to beat. I like it. I like that he cares. I like that he's so emotional. He knows how much the fans car, how much the team cared, and how much the emotional media expected them to win. It's got to be hard for a 20 year old kid to deal w/.

I know pretty much none of you have been in his situation and had a camera in your face exposing you live to millions and millions of viewers right when one of the most disappointing things of your entire career has occurred.

Imagine that. William the Doucheish trolling KU boards. How surprising. ROFL

Look it's Ari the guy who said KU would win the title in football within 7 years.