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TambaBerry 06-23-2013 07:06 PM

Seriously **** you Denver Broncos, a few minutes away and you bid him up? What the **** is wrong with you?

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 07:07 PM

Sorry, bub. That's the way I play the FA game.

Rain Man 06-23-2013 07:09 PM

Heh-heh. This is how rivalries get started.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771320)
Sorry, bub. That's the way I play the FA game.

Its ****ing idiotic, you don't even need a guard yet you bid him up at the last second. Why? If you had a need at guard I would understand but you don't.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 07:27 PM

Are you saying you need a guard?

sfchief 06-23-2013 07:29 PM

I finally won a FA, and it only cost me $206 dollars.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771359)
Are you saying you need a guard?

Ya, I only bid on guys I have a need for. Which is the purpose of free agency.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771371)
Ya, I only bid on guys I have a need for.

What would you trade for Kevin Boothe? :evil:

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771397)
What would you trade for Kevin Boothe? :evil:

See this is whats wrong with the free agency right here. All he is doing is going to bid him up so I can't get him.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771415)
See this is whats wrong with the free agency right here. All he is doing is going to bid him up so I can't get him.

I have a lot of money to throw around. If I can acquire some premium talent with it, I will. If you can't afford Kevin Boothe, not my problem.

It's possible I may not pursue Kevin Boothe after today, but I wasn't willing to see him go off the board just yet.

Deal with it.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771440)
I have a lot of money to throw around. If I can acquire some premium talent with it, I will. If you can't afford Kevin Boothe, not my problem.

It's possible I may not pursue Kevin Boothe after today, but I wasn't willing to see him go off the board just yet.

Deal with it.

Use that money and bid everyone up douchebag, but what you're doing is ****ing stupid and all you're doing is being a jackass. It's the only reason you waited until literally the last minute.

Rain Man 06-23-2013 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771371)
Ya, I only bid on guys I have a need for. Which is the purpose of free agency.

Another purpose is to keep your opponents from getting what they need, or at least driving up their cost. It's a legitimate strategy in the dog-eat-dog world of Sandbox professional football.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771458)
Use that money and bid everyone up douchebag, but what you're doing is ****ing stupid and all you're doing is being a jackass. It's the only reason you waited until literally the last minute.

I'm interested in keeping Mr. Boothe on the board.

But I can't think of a reason to bid him up before the last minute, when someone else might save me the trouble. Can you?

I mean I could just let him go out of the kindness of my heart, but he's a player I'm interested in. Therefore...he remains on the board until I determine my interest is 0.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9771485)
Another purpose is to keep your opponents from getting what they need, or at least driving up their cost. It's a legitimate strategy in the dog-eat-dog world of Sandbox professional football.

I disagree, you guys are trying to be realistic. In what world does a team with two good starters at the position ever spend that much money on a backup?

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771521)
I disagree, you guys are trying to be realistic. In what world does a team with two good starters at the position ever spend that much money on a backup?

Boothe wouldn't be a backup for me. He'd start.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 08:11 PM

Cool, every guy on my team is available for trade. Let me know what you want or thinking.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 08:15 PM

That's the spirit. But take heart, you may still win the bidding process. It all depends where I choose to spend my vast stacks of cash.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 08:16 PM

I could care less, you have ruined the fun for me.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771578)
I could care less, you have ruined the fun for me.

Your enjoyment of sandbox football was contingent on signing Kevin Boothe?

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 08:19 PM

Ya man 100% of it. I really wanted him, he is my favorite player.

Rain Man 06-23-2013 08:21 PM

I'm also a big fan of Kevin Boothe.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9771590)
I'm also a big fan of Kevin Boothe.

I laughed

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9771590)
I'm also a big fan of Kevin Boothe.

If only you had the resources with which to pursue him.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 08:45 PM

You're just a troll that's all you're doing

Rain Man 06-23-2013 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771628)
If only you had the resources with which to pursue him.

We're saving our 53rd roster spot for a developmentally disabled kid who will score a touchdown for us in the final game of the season. It's great p.r.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 08:55 PM

Nah. I have legit interest in Kevin Boothe, because I don't have Evan Mathis signed long term.

I figure I can sign Boothe and trade one of my guards to bolster another position. I have all this money, so I'm going to use it.

Sorry.

And, as I said, I may not even sign him. I have other targets.

Rain Man 06-23-2013 09:21 PM

Duluth signs C Jeff Saturday to a six-year contract and cuts C Brad Meester. We think Saturday will man the line for us for a long time.

mrroandrro 06-23-2013 09:25 PM

The truth is Denver Broncos has been bidding up players at the last minute for awhile now. I dont really care, except for the LAST MINUTE part. That bothers me as it is stretching this free agency out waaaayyyyyyyy to long. It would be different if he actually made a competitive bid, one that said "hey, if you want him, you're gonna have to pony up and beat me". But that's not how he bids. He ups the ante by $1 at the last minute. Its an obvious attempt to ruffle some feathers and that's it, and maybe make you spend some more dough. I can appreciate the upping the ante to make the others spend more part, its the last minute part that has taken some of the fun out of this for me. Its unnecesary. It is definitely time to speed up this process a bit, put it from 3 days to 1.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 09:28 PM

I have legitimate interest in any player I bid up. Period. It's not trolling.

I only bid $1 because I see no reason to commit more dollars than necessary to any particular bid at any point in time. The only goal of that bid is to keep the player on the board while the dust settles in other bidding wars I'm a part of. When those wars settle, I'll probably bid more on someone else.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 09:42 PM

BTW, I agree that what I am doing is probably annoying. However, the system is set up for me to use it like this. I wouldn't call it abuse, because I'm only doing it with players I'm actually interested in. And I have made several competitive bids throughout this process, believe it or not. I drove the price way up on Victor Cruz because I wanted to sign him. Same with a few CBs and DTs.

lostcause 06-23-2013 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771734)
BTW, I agree that what I am doing is probably annoying. However, the system is set up for me to use it like this. I wouldn't call it abuse, because I'm only doing it with players I'm actually interested in. And I have made several competitive bids throughout this process, believe it or not. I drove the price way up on Victor Cruz because I wanted to sign him. Same with a few CBs and DTs.

It's behavior like this that should give every Sandboxian a vested interest in seeing Denver lose to their hated arch rival - the Anchorage Roadkill Rabbits. Behavior like this and his obsessive hatred of the beloved Sandboxian legend that is Alex D. Smith.

lostcause 06-23-2013 10:51 PM

Fun Fact #1: Alex D. Smith combined with Darren "Jesus" Sproles would create the only entity more powerful than Chuck Norris.

lostcause 06-23-2013 10:55 PM

Fun Fact #2: Since it's impossible for any mere mortal to pick off Alex D. Smith; the three combined interceptions he threw all of last year are merely manifest examples of his divine benevolence when he took pity upon select opposing defenses.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 11:00 PM

If you want to bid on a guy don't wait until the last minute, literally it was under five minutes. We all know you're doing this to piss people off.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 11:00 PM

You're just dragging it on and on

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9771827)
It's behavior like this that should give every Sandboxian a vested interest in seeing Denver lose to their hated arch rival - the Anchorage Roadkill Rabbits. Behavior like this and his obsessive hatred of the beloved Sandboxian legend that is Alex D. Smith.

I'm coming, mother****er. I've taken ACTION this offseason. Multiple upgrades on the offensive side of the ball. The defense is stronger, too, which is interesting considering my defense was already as good as yours.

Prepare.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1353040579

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9771852)
If you want to bid on a guy don't wait until the last minute, literally it was under five minutes. We all know you're doing this to piss people off.

No. I'm doing it because I'd rather see someone else bid on that player, to keep him on the board, so I can use my money elsewhere.

But if I have to, I will. But there's no sense in doing it early. What's the logic in that?

DJ's left nut 06-23-2013 11:07 PM

Awwww....listen to you girls get all hot and bothered.

That's good, I like a competitive league. This kind of fire over a battle for 2nd place speaks well for the overall league balance.

The trophy is still parked in Clearwater and the team that won it isn't as good as the team that's going to try to defend it.

TambaBerry 06-23-2013 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771862)
No. I'm doing it because I'd rather see someone else bid on that player, to keep him on the board, so I can use my money elsewhere.

But if I have to, I will. But there's no sense in doing it early. What's the logic in that?

But you're interested in that guy yet you want to use your money elsewhere where is the logic in that?

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 11:08 PM

It's all about keeping my options open.

I want that player on the board in case something else falls through. Get it?

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9771867)
Awwww....listen to you girls get all hot and bothered.

That's good, I like a competitive league. This kind of fire over a battle for 2nd place speaks well for the overall league balance.

The trophy is still parked in Clearwater and the team that won it isn't as good as the team that's going to try to defend it.

Clearwater is just lucky you didn't face mighty Denver not ONCE the entire year.

Let's not forget I had the BEST record in the entire league.

This year Anchorage will be my bitch, and then I'll take care of you.

Hammock Parties 06-23-2013 11:15 PM

A little refresher for you guys...

A 14-2 team added:

CJ Spiller
Tyson Clabo
Ryan Wendell
Brandon Myers
Michael Brockers
Devin McCourty
Kerry Rhodes

I won't even go into lower level upgrades like Dwayne Allen, Chris Givens and Marcus Thigpen.

Did I mention I still have 350 sandbox bucks to blow?

lostcause 06-23-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771888)
A little refresher for you guys...

A 14-2 team added:

CJ Spiller
Tyson Clabo
Ryan Wendell
Brandon Myers
Michael Brockers
Devin McCourty
Kerry Rhodes

I won't even go into lower level upgrades like Dwayne Allen, Chris Givens and Marcus Thigpen.

Did I mention I still have 350 sandbox bucks to blow?

At least you didn't use that 350 bucks on somebody useful like Sherman or Cruz.

Rain Man 06-24-2013 12:11 AM

The real power in the Lunar North is going to be Duluth. We solved our running game problem with the acquisition of Frank Gore, and veterans Ronde Barber and Antoine Winfield will solidify our defensive backfield. Defenses can't solve Gore running and Nicks, Desean Jackson, and Randall Cobb on the outside, and offenses won't be able to withstand our fearsome front four. Say hello to a dynasty.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lostcause (Post 9771924)
At least you didn't use that 350 bucks on somebody useful like Sherman or Cruz.

1. Couldn't have afforded Sherman.

2. I was going to bid on Cruz again but lacked the funds at the time. I'm guessing the Rhein would have outbid me in the end anyway.

I'm not 100 percent sure I want to blow all this cash at the moment anyway. I'm thinking with the reduced money available to teams next offseason, having some rollover cash could be a HUGE thing.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 9771955)
The real power in the Lunar North is going to be Duluth. We solved our running game problem with the acquisition of Frank Gore, and veterans Ronde Barber and Antoine Winfield will solidify our defensive backfield. Defenses can't solve Gore running and Nicks, Desean Jackson, and Randall Cobb on the outside, and offenses won't be able to withstand our fearsome front four. Say hello to a dynasty.

Don't forget Jeff Saturday.

The long, bloody war for his services is finally over.

ChiefAshhole20 06-24-2013 01:31 AM

It is safe to say that I despise the Sandbox Denver Broncos even more than the real life Denver Broncos. I doubt I could honestly care less about Daryl Smith, but the fact that you wait all the way until the last dwindiling hours to bid it up one point with your vast amount of funds is weakkkkkkk. I get the whole enjoyment in being a troll gig, but is it gonna be this way all offseason? I'd like to try to start the regular season relatively soon.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 01:46 AM

You didn't even know Daryl Smith existed until I started bidding on him.

Fact of the matter is...he's a player I'm interested in. But I'm not willing to commit too many dollars to him at the moment. $1 is enough, just to reset his timer...I don't want to over-commit to a guy like that and lose out on someone else. Get it?

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 05:20 AM

You're just an idiot, all this money you have just bid on the guy and get him that way we can be done soon.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 05:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9772011)
You're just an idiot, all this money you have just bid on the guy and get him that way we can be done soon.

I'm saving my money for bigger fish.

In the mean time, a simple small bid will keep other less important targets on the board.

You know, in case I don't get one of the big fish.

See? I have good reasons for my FA strategy. I'm interested in having my cake and eating it too. And since I have all this wonderful money...I can afford it!

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 05:38 AM

You're the only one in both leagues with this strategy, how many quality guys are left?

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9772013)
You're the only one in both leagues with this strategy, how many quality guys are left?

I have a different strategy in the other league.

1 - less money to play with

2 - less talent options (got in way late)

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 05:49 AM

We just want to get done with free agency, we will never be done if you keep waiting 3 days and bidding up people, then three days and bidding up people. Get it?

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9772016)
We just want to get done with free agency, we will never be done if you keep waiting 3 days and bidding up people, then three days and bidding up people. Get it?

LMAO

We're talking about 4-5 players here. There are over 40 guys on the board.

I'm not holding up anything.

brorth 06-24-2013 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9772016)
We just want to get done with free agency, we will never be done if you keep waiting 3 days and bidding up people, then three days and bidding up people. Get it?

Quit whining, ****stick.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brorth (Post 9772115)
Quit whining, ****stick.

**** you

Rain Man 06-24-2013 09:52 AM

We're getting close to the end of free agency. At some point if it doesn't stop naturally we'll stop accepting bids on new players and play out the string.

The next step will be developing your depth charts and game plans, and seeing what your exact injury situation is. That part is not up and running yet, but will be soon.

Fansy the Famous Bard 06-24-2013 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9772016)
We just want to get done with free agency, we will never be done if you keep waiting 3 days and bidding up people, then three days and bidding up people. Get it?

The funniest part is you are whining like a little school girl about it, yet two of the guys you have ended up signing were only available to you because of last minute sniping by others. Breno and Marshal both. Seems to me it worked out just fine for you in those cases. Quit your sobbing already.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 9773549)
The funniest part is you are whining like a little school girl about it, yet two of the guys you have ended up signing were only available to you because of last minute sniping by others. Breno and Marshal both. Seems to me it worked out just fine for you in those cases. Quit your sobbing already.

I havent sniped anyone last minute, and also I'm not whining like a little girl.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 09:11 PM

You kinda are, dude. I have a strategy on specific players. There's no trolling involved.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 09:19 PM

It's great you have a strategy, why wait until one minute left? Why not one day or a few hours. I don't care you bid me up, I just don't see any point in waiting until the last minute unless you're trying to piss people off.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 09:26 PM

I admit I got a little whiny and apologize, just extremely frustrating getting bid up by a dollar in the last minute literally.

TambaBerry 06-24-2013 09:27 PM

Also offer still stands, anyone on my team is available for trade. I don't see this team as a championship caliber so I'm trying to improve as much as I can.

Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9773643)
It's great you have a strategy, why wait until one minute left?

I already explained that.



Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerky Sandbox Owner
I can't think of a reason to bid him up before the last minute, when someone else might save me the trouble. Can you?


Hammock Parties 06-24-2013 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9773654)
Also offer still stands, anyone on my team is available for trade. I don't see this team as a championship caliber so I'm trying to improve as much as I can.

I've been trying to package my first-round pick + any starter to upgrade that starter's position on my team all offseason.

Is that something you'd be interested in?

mrroandrro 06-25-2013 12:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9773654)
Also offer still stands, anyone on my team is available for trade. I don't see this team as a championship caliber so I'm trying to improve as much as I can.

What receivers do you have?

mrroandrro 06-25-2013 02:15 AM

There you go Denver Broncos. If you want JoLonn that bad, come get him. If you outbid me now, he is all yours!!!

Hammock Parties 06-25-2013 03:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrroandrro (Post 9773845)
There you go Denver Broncos. If you want JoLonn that bad, come get him. If you outbid me now, he is all yours!!!

Tambaberry will be very happy with you. Now I can aggressively pursue Kevin Boothe.

TambaBerry 06-25-2013 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9773883)
Tambaberry will be very happy with you. Now I can aggressively pursue Kevin Boothe.

I no comprehend

Hammock Parties 06-25-2013 05:24 AM

I mean next time I bid on Kevin Boothe, I'll bid more than $1.

mrroandrro 06-25-2013 07:58 AM

Tambaberry, I got some draft picks for you. I'm messaging you on the site, look for it.

rageeumr 06-25-2013 08:29 AM

Provo goes on a signing spree and picks up 5 new players:
Eugene Sims - DE
Armon Binns - WR
Leroy Hill - WLB
Buster Skrine - CB
Cameron Bradfield - RT

Sims and Binns are instacut. Sorry, gentlemen.

Only cut of note is Provo's 7th round rookie draft pick, Coty Sensabaugh. Sorry Coty, just too much middling CB depth on this team.

DJ's left nut 06-25-2013 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alex Smith HATER (Post 9771965)
Don't forget Jeff Saturday.

The long, bloody war for his services is finally over.

Okay, now what this is over, someone has to explain it to me.

I was initially quite irritated with myself for cutting a guy that was clearly valued by a team or two. I'm still annoyed that I let him go when he may have had trade value, but now I realize that he was way overbid.

For instance, I just signed Robert Turner to a 1-year deal for $1. Turner started 16 games for the Rams last year and did a pretty nice job of it. He's a plus pass blocker and a passable run blocker; not at all unlike Saturday, really (in fact, he's a significantly better run blocker).

And yeah, now that he's in Tennessee he'll probably be a backup in 2013, but who cares? Saturday won't even be in the league.

So for 1 year of Turner, a center that is virtually identical in performance to Saturday, I paid $1. Meanwhile Duluth paid $80 for 1 year of Saturday (in fact, only 14 games and a guy that won't be playoff eligible).

Must be a locker-room chemistry thing...

Rain Man 06-25-2013 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 9774147)
Okay, now what this is over, someone has to explain it to me.

I was initially quite irritated with myself for cutting a guy that was clearly valued by a team or two. I'm still annoyed that I let him go when he may have had trade value, but now I realize that he was way overbid.

For instance, I just signed Robert Turner to a 1-year deal for $1. Turner started 16 games for the Rams last year and did a pretty nice job of it. He's a plus pass blocker and a passable run blocker; not at all unlike Saturday, really (in fact, he's a significantly better run blocker).

And yeah, now that he's in Tennessee he'll probably be a backup in 2013, but who cares? Saturday won't even be in the league.

So for 1 year of Turner, a center that is virtually identical in performance to Saturday, I paid $1. Meanwhile Duluth paid $80 for 1 year of Saturday (in fact, only 14 games and a guy that won't be playoff eligible).

Must be a locker-room chemistry thing...

Saturday was a pro bowler and I think we can win it all this year. I don't want to risk a Sandbox Bowl loss because I hoarded my cash and didn't get a top-notch center.

The other dynamic is that my team didn't need much. By the time I did some trades and stuff, I really only had a couple of needs, and center was the most glaring. Even at that, I have a long-term center, but he just got hurt last year. I didn't have enough money to bid on the big names and kept getting shut out, so toward the end I had a fair amount of money and still desperately needed a short-term center.

TambaBerry 06-25-2013 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrroandrro (Post 9774033)
Tambaberry, I got some draft picks for you. I'm messaging you on the site, look for it.

replied

rageeumr 06-25-2013 10:50 AM

I'm still shopping Muhammad Wilkerson. Best 3-4 DE in the league not named J.J. Watt. Looking for a top tier 4-3 guy in return. DT is preferred, but I might be interested in the right DE or LB.

Darnell Dockett is also on the block. Arizona's new defensive scheme should benefit him and I expect his 2013 numbers to get back to normal for him.

topher79 06-25-2013 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rageeumr (Post 9774333)
I'm still shopping Muhammad Wilkerson. Best 3-4 DE in the league not named J.J. Watt. Looking for a top tier 4-3 guy in return. DT is preferred, but I might be interested in the right DE or LB.

Darnell Dockett is also on the block. Arizona's new defensive scheme should benefit him and I expect his 2013 numbers to get back to normal for him.

Sen'Derrick Marks? Jeremy Mincey?

mrroandrro 06-25-2013 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9774299)
replied

Replied back

TambaBerry 06-25-2013 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrroandrro (Post 9774557)
Replied back

Back lets do this

Rain Man 06-25-2013 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tambaberry (Post 9774589)
Back lets do this

This is exciting. It's almost as if I'm in the war room.


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