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Kiimo 07-11-2019 04:43 PM

I read that but not until this child abuse saga. I had never thought BEFORE this summer that it was possible he didn't do it.

Now I understand his initial comments that made Danny Klinksdale fly into a rage about how he needed to "surround himself with better people"

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14343892)
Man I never thought at the end of this saga we'd have an exoneration of Tyreek Hill's 2014 incident.

Just crazy town, this story. Crystal tried to secretly record Tyreek to catch him incriminating himself and managed to show the world the one thing we all sided with her on was in fact bullshit.

Lets not get too carried away. It may not have been as bad as reported, but he roughed her up.

There are both a police report and a medical examination that demonstrate there was some sort of physical altercation. Tyreek never did respond to how the bruises got there, just as she never responded regarding the punches.

He forced her out, maybe a little too forcefully, likely aided by her resistance.

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14343912)

Now I understand his initial comments that made Danny Klinksdale fly into a rage about how he needed to "surround himself with better people"

IIRC, wasn't that comment regarding his former friend/teammate that she was allegedly ****ing around with? The guy Tyreek was texting back from her phone when he took it to the bathroom.

Kiimo 07-11-2019 04:49 PM

Yeah you're probably right, just a far cry from the image I had of him heavy-bagging her full pregnant stomach with multiple punches.

Picking somebody up who is 8 weeks pregnant and putting them outside is not good but it is WAY different than the image I imagined

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14343921)
Lets not get too carried away. It may not have been as bad as reported, but he roughed her up.

There are both a police report and a medical examination that demonstrate there was some sort of physical altercation. Tyreek never did respond to how the bruises got there, just as she never responded regarding the punches.

He forced her out, maybe a little too forcefully, likely aided by her resistance.

Wasnt there 4 hours between him removing her and the report of bruises? Devils advocate here but a vindictive chick who seemingly will do anything could have ... oh lets see.... the person she was texting for Tyreek to get upset enough to break up with her on the spot to "help her out" with those.
Bruises on the neck were pretty explained in the audio when he said he put his arm around her and put her out the door.

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14343923)
Yeah you're probably right, just a far cry from the image I had of him heavy-bagging her full pregnant stomach with multiple punches.

Picking somebody up who is 8 weeks pregnant and putting them outside is not good but it is WAY different than the image I imagined

Fo sho

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14343925)
Wasnt there 4 hours between him removing her and the report of bruises? Devils advocate here but a vindictive chick who seemingly will do anything could have ... oh lets see.... the person she was texting for Tyreek to get upset enough to break up with her on the spot to "help her out" with those.
Bruises on the neck were pretty explained in the audio when he said he put his arm around her and put her out the door.

Sure, but the more realistic answer is that

A) She, like many women, bruise easily

B) He was being very forcefull since she was refusing to leave

C) She was likely being physical as well in her attempt to not be displaced.

That combination of him forcing her out and her kicking screaming to stay could result in those bruises fairly easily. Especially considering Tyreek's strength/grip and her petite size.

Lprechaun 07-11-2019 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14343933)
Sure, but the more realistic answer is that

A) She, like many women, bruise easily

B) He was being very forcefull since she was refusing to leave

C) She was likely being physical as well in her attempt to not be displaced.

That combination of him forcing her out and her kicking screaming to stay could result in those bruises fairly easily. Especially considering Tyreek's strength/grip and her petite size.

Tough to be a guy with a crazy woman for sure. In the end I truly do feel sorry for him, I think more highly of him as more and more comes out.
I think he sincerely wants to be a good father for his kid(s) and would have stuck it out with her if this newest stuff never came out for them.
In the end I hope he gets full custody, she goes to jail for extortion and he is publicly praised for being a good dad. (wishful thinking)

Dante84 07-11-2019 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 14343923)
Yeah you're probably right, just a far cry from the image I had of him heavy-bagging her full pregnant stomach with multiple punches.

Picking somebody up who is 8 weeks pregnant and putting them outside is not good but it is WAY different than the image I imagined

Here's the thing.

Think how truly ****ed up that would be.

To punch a pregnant woman in the stomach.

Even if it's in a rage, and you're wanting to beat someone up, who punches anyone in the stomach? It would be hits to the face, hair pulling, slamming against a wall.... but a formal punch to the stomach?

That's such a different level of evil, such a flawed character trait, that it would permeate every facet of this awful person's life.

You can't hide that. The team would sniff that out in interviews. He would have ****ed up again, sooner, or had a history of it prior to that.

I've always taken issue with that part of the 2014 story because it's so over the top.

Halfcan 07-11-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 14343933)
Sure, but the more realistic answer is that

A) She, like many women, bruise easily

B) He was being very forcefull since she was refusing to leave

C) She was likely being physical as well in her attempt to not be displaced.

That combination of him forcing her out and her kicking screaming to stay could result in those bruises fairly easily. Especially considering Tyreek's strength/grip and her petite size.

And all would have been avoided if she ****ed off and left his place when she was asked. She is responsible. I highly doubt she was hurt at all when he picked her up and put her out. She has zero credibility and a history, according to reports by KK, that she hurts herself.

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Lprechaun (Post 14343939)
I think he sincerely wants to be a good father for his kid(s) and would have stuck it out with her if this newest stuff never came out for them.
)

I agree.

People keep asking why he stuck with her, and really, he stuck with his kid. His desire to raise his boy with a father figure around in his life. His desire to see his son everyday when he came home.

I think that's pretty damn understandable. Especially if he felt like he and Crystal worked their shit out and put the past in the past.

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 14343944)
And all would have been avoided if she ****ed off and left his place when she was asked. She is responsible. I highly doubt she was hurt at all when he picked her up and put her out.

Totally agree. But you know how society works.

Kiimo 07-11-2019 05:05 PM

I mean, the biggest thing I've always bristled at was people on twitter saying he has "chronic" abuse history.

Um, even if he did hit her it happened once. That's not chronic. Then he stayed with this woman who was provoking him and never once was physical with her again. Turns out Tyreek Hill isn't actually prone to physical violence. Brain-explosion.

But I wonder what motivated Crystal?

hmmmm





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VAGOMO 4 LIFE! 07-11-2019 05:07 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Looks like Hill and Espinal are no longer engaged: <a href="https://t.co/JmZTm2nYcn">https://t.co/JmZTm2nYcn</a></p>&mdash; Michele Steele (@ESPNMichele) <a href="https://twitter.com/ESPNMichele/status/1149446409697079298?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

ToxSocks 07-11-2019 05:08 PM

skeeeeeeeert. Say wha?

And who is this person reporting this?

I KNEW THOSE ****ING TOES LOOKED TOO WHITE TO BE REEK'S BABIES!


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