Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7490600)

This is true, but Colorado was on him, and Mizzou wasn't. It's not like we had to choose between him and an All-American. This wasn't Bill Self trying to make room for Xavier Henry or Lance Stephenson. Lottery picks out of the state of Missouri can't wind up in Boulder. Gainesville is bad enough. Boulder is unacceptable under any circumstance.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7490595)

Missing on Burks is a disaster. Missing on Hansborough is a disaster.

Colorado hit on Burks. He wasn't a highly-touted guy, but it's Anderson's job to know when there's a diamond in the rough. He should have at least been on his radar enough to pull him away from Colorado when he started to blow up.

There are plenty of reasons for missing out on those guys, but there are no excuses.

As far as I'm concerned, Anderson will always have a team somewhere in the 20-40 range. He was the right man for the job when we hired him. He's left the program better than he found it, and I appreciate that. Other than a fluke elite-eight run, he is what he is.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7490540)

2011Brad Beal (top player in-state. Missouri almost got him to flip in December)
Otto Porter (will be the No. 2 guy by the time the final rankings come out. Going to be a Tiger)
B.J. Young (Never got a Missouri offer because he doesn't play defense, is a huge qualifying risk and is a hothead)
Ben McLemore (likely going to ku, but it isn't over yet)

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7490637)

It's like we dated a bitchy hot chick who wound up doing bukake films, so we dated the chubby girl with a pretty face. A few months later, she hasn't cheated on us that we know of, but she's got a lot of dudes on her Facebook page making weird comments.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7490068)

In fairness - as far as I can tell, Hamas hates pretty much every coach ever (or maybe that's Frazod).

I'm completely stumped how anyone can kill Gary Pinkel. I guess I understand Anderson, we really have to start wondering about his ability to recruit size and if that continued failure will always hold him back at this level. But if someone constantly slams both Pinkel and Anderson, I have to wonder if they know just exactly who they're rooting for.

MU has no right to top 25 squads in both sports. They damn sure don't have a right to top 10 ones. Pinkel's built a consistent top 25 squad and Anderson has a team capable of doing damage (built on the rubble of the Snyder era) that seems to have a lot of very good kids on it.

All told, there aren't many schools I'd swap our coaching situations with. I mean is anyone really eager to bring in Rick Barnes and Mack Brown? We have a nice pair of coaches in Columbia.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7490647)

I don't hate Pinkel or Mike Anderson, but I do think that both have served their purpose. You can exist on a continuum of improvement where you move from Larry Smith to a good coach to a much better coach.

Missouri is a large, public university with a really nice donor and booster base. They have excellent facilities, and the town, although not Austin, Texas, is pretty good for a college atmosphere. It doesn't have the in-state pipelines of California, Florida, or Texas, but there's no reason why it can't be a solid, second tier school that can occasionally compete for NCs rather than waiting on a tornado to turn a junkyard into a functional F-15.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7490656)

I think Pinkel has done a lot, and I still think that he can do more. I feel that Anderson has done a lot, but I think he's peaked.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7490686)

On top of that, they routinely get beaten to balls they should never lose.

Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 7490637)

I didn't touch on this, either. You kind of glossed over the fact that there are 4 outstanding players in the state this year (that we know of), and we are likely going to get one of them. I'm not 100% convinced that Porter is a Tiger, either. If Anderson goes to Arkansas, I don't see any chance that Porter goes to Mizzou. I guess that's a coup for MA, but it's not a big one.

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7490733)

Missouri only tried to get three of them (didn't touch B.J. Young at all). It's going to get one (Porter will be a Tiger. Anderson is NOT going to Arkie).

Beal is a tough miss. Donovan started working Beal when Brad was about to enter 8th grade. Anderson never quite made up that early lead (though it was damn close, and Beal almost flipped to Mizzou in December). Kid is going to be a stud.

McLemore - who also has big qualification issues - is not settled yet. Situation is the same as it always has been... he wants to go to ku. Family - and especially Mom - wants him at Mizzou. If the family wins out, he'll be a Tiger.

I'll take two out of that three.

Young - who miraculously got a 22 on his ACT, I'm sure THAT's clean - is going to take those serious character concerns with him. I doubt he lasts long at whatever school he lands at.

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7490686)

The team shows a lack of desire in half court defense. They rotate lazily, and it allows way too many open 3's on the perimeter. On top of that, they routinely get beaten to balls they should never lose.

It's a lazy, soft team.