Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7164065)

A lot of it probably does have to do with age and potential. This isn't quite the Beltran deal, and he's not Butler. Beltran was 27 when we traded him. Butler is 24 years old.

Remember, when he hits free agency next offseason, DDJ will be 32 years old. I still think he has the potential to put up .330/15-20 HR seasons, no doubt. I think he can be a very underrated, valuable player for a winning team. But his next contract might take him to 35-36 years old. He might permanently be a corner OF'er at that point.

Originally Posted by Chief Chief (Post 7164042)

IMHO this trade SUCKS BIG-TIME!

When will the future actually arrive to the K? DDJ is a player who developed in the last few years within our club and is hitting (no pun intended) his prime years right now. He deserved to get a Gold Glove last year and was on his way to deserving one this year. He's an above-average hitter with some decent power and can run. But now DM's throwing him out because negotiation time's coming up? Pay the man! He's worth the risk. This is looking like the Carlos Beltran deal: Toss away a legitimate All Star and get players who have budding potential. This is EXACTLY what Zack Greinke was bitching about earlier this year. When will DM finally seal up the revolving door, hold onto his cards, and go all in? How many teams have reached the World Series with 22 of its 25 players under 30 years old? And yet we retain Billy Butler who, yeah, hits alot of doubles, but is a sub-par defensive player with limited range and below-average speed and is often the 2nd out of double plays? R U F'n kidding me? And that's just one Royals player who DM should have traded before offering DDJ to anyone. DM: You're doing it bass-ackwards -- keep the proven productive ones and get more by packaging up and trading prospects with (possible) up-side who are 2 or more years away from the bigs. If before today anyone out there doubted that the Royals were the farm system for the other MLB teams, then this is now your wake-up call: There is absolutely no way anyone can deny it.

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7164076)

I think he can still play center. At least he avoids making too many bonehead plays out there. I always thought he'd develop the ability to steal bases more than he has... that might be his biggest problem. He's hardly been able to push being a 10/10 guy. But he does hit doubles and triples. Our offense definitely went down a notch without him.

I won't even acknowledge the tripe that is your last statement. :D If you mean behind Greinke, Crow, and Mazzaro, then sure.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7164079)

So instead of trading DeJesus for 1 decent prospect he trades him for a replacement level RHP with fringe stuff and a(nother) lefty that doesn't seem like he projects to do much at the major league?

I've always said that DeJesus has more value to other teams than he would KC, but a steady bat at the top of your order is a big deal and the Royals just gave one away.

If they couldn't do better than this, they should've had him play out the season and offered him arby to pick up at least a sandwich pick as a type B FA.

Not a good trade.

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 7164100)

You know Francouer is heading to KC now that he is a FA, Dayton is drooling

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 7164093)

1) Mazzaro has more upside than as a replacement-level guy. And he's got better than fringe stuff. He's a guy who in the minor leagues took some time at each level before feeling comfortable challenging hitters, which is when his stuff usually started to improve. 92-93 with good movement will play in the major leagues, if you have command...
2) Mazzaro and Sykes are both pretty similar to anything you could nab in the sandwich round, Sykes especially.