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Mr. Flopnuts 07-31-2011 09:56 AM

Wow. Looks like the M's are talking to the Cards about Eric Bedard. Since we suck cock this year, and for the foreseeable future with that ****head Howard Lincoln running the team, I hope you guys land him and he can help you out. He's out there, but dude can pitch.

Rams Fan 07-31-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7789984)
Wow. Looks like the M's are talking to the Cards about Eric Bedard. Since we suck cock this year, and for the foreseeable future with that ****head Howard Lincoln running the team, I hope you guys land him and he can help you out. He's out there, but dude can pitch.

Bedard doesn't really fill a need unless the Cardinals gave up someone like Westrbook or Lohse.

DJ's left nut 07-31-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7789990)
Bedard doesn't really fill a need unless the Cardinals gave up someone like Westrbook or Lohse.

Wouldn't getting out from under Westbrook be phenominal?

Ship him out for Bedard and free up that money to actually re-sign Jackson. At that point, Moe would get some decent marks from me.

Jackson's problem isn't his ability; he has legit #2 starter stuff. It's his FA status and the fact that we can't resign him given Moe's handywork last season. If he's able to improve the ballclub and dump Westbrook in the process, I'll be pretty damn impressed.

More likely is that he'll give up Ryan Jackson for him.

Maybe we can get them to take Mikael Cleto back.

OnTheWarpath15 07-31-2011 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7790001)
Wouldn't getting out from under Westbrook be phenominal?

Ship him out for Bedard and free up that money to actually re-sign Jackson. At that point, Moe would get some decent marks from me.

Jackson's problem isn't his ability; he has legit #2 starter stuff. It's his FA status and the fact that we can't resign him given Moe's handywork last season. If he's able to improve the ballclub and dump Westbrook in the process, I'll be pretty damn impressed.


More likely is that he'll give up Ryan Jackson for him.

Maybe we can get them to take Mikael Cleto back.

This.

Rams Fan 07-31-2011 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 7790001)
Wouldn't getting out from under Westbrook be phenominal?

Ship him out for Bedard and free up that money to actually re-sign Jackson. At that point, Moe would get some decent marks from me.

Jackson's problem isn't his ability; he has legit #2 starter stuff. It's his FA status and the fact that we can't resign him given Moe's handywork last season. If he's able to improve the ballclub and dump Westbrook in the process, I'll be pretty damn impressed.

More likely is that he'll give up Ryan Jackson for him.

Maybe we can get them to take Mikael Cleto back.

I'm not disagreeing about with anything you said. If he manages to trade Westbrook, I'll be happy.

Now the question is if Mo is going to trade any decent prospects and either Boggs or Motte for Bell.

Rams Fan 07-31-2011 10:35 AM

Jon Jay will switch over to #19 as Furcal takes #15.

OnTheWarpath15 07-31-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7789514)
Castellanos didn't play tonight as scheduled. No explanation given.

P-D reporting he was dealt to LA for Furcal.

Rams Fan 07-31-2011 01:35 PM

Luddy is about to be a Pirate.

Miles 07-31-2011 02:06 PM

Looks like Bedard went to the Red Sox.

veist 07-31-2011 03:49 PM

Castellanos? Guy has no plate discipline it sounds like so we didn't give up much. Potential bench player for a chance to upgrade over the suck we have at SS.

Lono 07-31-2011 04:42 PM

Will the cards get the sweep tonight?

OnTheWarpath15 07-31-2011 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Lono (Post 7791035)
Will the cards get the sweep tonight?

History says no.

Typically in a weekend series with an opportunity for a sweep, Tony throws out his bullshit lineup. Haven't seen it yet, but that's typically the case, and we throw away a perfectly good chance to win a game and complete the sweep.

However, we are playing the Cubs, so we might be able to throw half of Memphis out there and pull out a win.

Rams Fan 07-31-2011 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7791053)
History says no.

Typically in a weekend series with an opportunity for a sweep, Tony throws out his bullshit lineup. Haven't seen it yet, but that's typically the case, and we throw away a perfectly good chance to win a game and complete the sweep.

However, we are playing the Cubs, so we might be able to throw half of Memphis out there and pull out a win.

Schumaker, 2B
Jay, CF
Pujols, 1B
Holliday, LF
Berkman, RF
Freese, 3B
Molina, C
Descalso, SS
Westbrook, P

Furcal isn't that good historically against Dempster. Glad to have the Puma back.

OnTheWarpath15 07-31-2011 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rams Fan (Post 7791062)
Schumaker, 2B
Jay, CF
Pujols, 1B
Holliday, LF
Berkman, RF
Freese, 3B
Molina, C
Descalso, SS
Westbrook, P

Furcal isn't that good historically against Dempster. Glad to have the Puma back.

Good to see that we didn't go with the traditional "give up" lineup, but FFS, you just traded for a starting SS and you don't start him?

DJ's left nut 07-31-2011 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7791066)
Good to see that we didn't go with the traditional "give up" lineup, but FFS, you just traded for a starting SS and you don't start him?

Starting the SS you just traded for wouldn't be genius.

You know Tony LaRussa needs his stamp on the game, afterall it's nationally televised. How are the broadcasters going to talk about his brilliant "RFer at 2b, 2b at SS" experiments if he starts a SS at SS and a 2b at 2b?

GENIUS AT WORK!


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