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J Diddy 02-19-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10442553)
Good. One of my biggest pet peeves about modern society is our constant state of fear. While my deepest sympathies are with the girl's family, the fact is that kids aren't any less safe today than they were 50 years ago. In fact, most of the stats say they're more safe than they've ever been. Teaching your kids to be smart, but let them have some semblance of independence. Kids need to learn to be kids.

EDIT: Found this to emphasize the point.

http://i.imgur.com/T9fFasO.png
http://www.freerangekids.com/crime-statistics/

I totally agree with this but the reality is that it does happen, no matter the infrequency of it happening.

It is difficult giving my child that freedom out of fear but I reluctantly do for this very reason. He must be given the opportunity to live life and have some independence. I also discussed this with him and went through what he should do and while I have little doubt that in the community I live in he would be safe there are no guarantees.

BullJunkandIron 02-19-2014 10:54 PM

I heard the Amber Alert didn't get broadcast til over 2 hours after the abduction. If true what took so long?

KC native 02-19-2014 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 10442553)
Good. One of my biggest pet peeves about modern society is our constant state of fear. While my deepest sympathies are with the girl's family, the fact is that kids aren't any less safe today than they were 50 years ago. In fact, most of the stats say they're more safe than they've ever been. Teaching your kids to be smart, but let them have some semblance of independence. Kids need to learn to be kids.

EDIT: Found this to emphasize the point.

Innumeracy is rampant in the US today.

SPchief 02-19-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Armadillo Skin (Post 10442601)
I heard the Amber Alert didn't get broadcast til over 2 hours after the abduction. If true what took so long?at

That's when it went out across the state. It was out in Springfield within a half hour IIRC

chuxtrux 02-19-2014 11:27 PM

I hope they spend some time and study the guy's brain and maybe get more clues as to how people end up like this. Then a bullet and be done with him.

BWillie 02-20-2014 01:23 AM

Why arent there alerts like this when ANYONE is abducted? Why does it have to be a child. Ill sign up voluntarily to get alerts, but I want it to be for anybody abducted or missing that we can try to save

BWillie 02-20-2014 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by srvy (Post 10441576)
I dont know if there is any test to predict this kind of behavior. What I do question and maybe I herd this wrong. The guy pleads guilty for possession of drugs in the 90's and is hired by the SPS district in the 90's. I am all for 2nd chances but not around school children.

These predator creeps are everywhere maybe in your neighborhood or working right next to you. They are ticking timebombs that can do this sort of a thing in a heartbeat. I have a 9 year old son and 6 year old daughter that I watch like a hawk. The world is differant than when I grew up you just cant let them wald the neighborhood alone anymore. Just so sad.

Its not actually. The world is safer than its been in a long time. Violent crime is down. Children are safer per capita than theyve been in years. I know its hard to see after a tragedy like this but its the facts. As a species we should expect that trend to continue. Had a professor that had a word for it, something about as we become more intertwined socially and less isolated species become more peaceful if certain stimuli are present

Discuss Thrower 02-20-2014 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 10442762)
Its not actually. The world is safer than its been in a long time. Violent crime is down. Children are safer per capita than theyve been in years. I know its hard to see after a tragedy like this but its the facts. As a species we should expect that trend to continue. Had a professor that had a word for it, something about as we become more intertwined socially and less isolated species become more peaceful if certain stimuli are present

But that doesn't fit the narrative Americans want to hear.

Deberg_1990 02-20-2014 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 10442776)
But that doesn't fit the narrative Americans want to hear.

I dont know if its what we want to hear, but i do think the media creates a state of paranoia alot of times. But alot of that is just the digital age we live in. We hear instantly now about little incidents all over the world. We take in so much information. Probably too much.

Eleazar 02-20-2014 07:07 AM

I think a major reason why these crimes occur today when they didn't in previous generations is the hyper-sexualization of our culture that's happened in the last several decades.

However, the press shamelessly turns every one of these tragedies into a media event. Long after the search ends, and the need to alarm the public about an emergency has passed, they - especially the local and regional TV news outlets - will still be feasting on it.

I don't think that the media needs to provide the garish macabre to the public that they seem to go out of their way to do once it's been handed over to the justice system. Reporting goes away, and driving ratings becomes the point of it all, regardless of the impact this has over time on family and society.

Fansy the Famous Bard 02-20-2014 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 10442624)
That's when it went out across the state. It was out in Springfield within a half hour IIRC

Jesus, Hope the guy didn't get the Amber alert on his phone like we did... possibly setting other things in motion beyond than the abduction.

Loneiguana 02-20-2014 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10442818)
I dont know if its what we want to hear, but i do think the media creates a state of paranoia alot of times. But alot of that is just the digital age we live in. We hear instantly now about little incidents all over the world. We take in so much information. Probably too much.


I don't completely agree nor disagree. I think the worst part is we only hear about the big cases. The abducted off the street by a stranger and killed cases.

The vast majority of child abuse and neglect is not reported by the media. Especially in Springfield. There are a few stories where I know what the news reported isn't actually what happened. Example, house burned down and kids bodies were found inside. What the news didn't say was the mother killed those children then burned the house down.

Local news kind of walks a line of community image protection on some stories.

According to 2011 stats, 4 children die a day in America because of child abuse and neglect. But that story won't get covered. And the majority will be by family.

https://www.childwelfare.gov/pubs/fa...s/fatality.pdf

Dartgod 02-20-2014 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 10442831)
I think a major reason why these crimes occur today when they didn't in previous generations...

Say what???

Jimmya 02-20-2014 07:46 AM

It's one of those situations we all pray we never have to go through.

Eleazar 02-20-2014 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 10442851)
Say what???

Were there so many creeps abducting kids and doing these things in the 1950s?


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