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Rain Man 12-19-2008 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5312110)
I'd love to know why some still devalue the most important position on the field.

I don't think Baby Lee and I are devaluing quarterbacks. We all want a whoopass quarterback. I assumed this was just a debate about Troy Aikman, who was the Curtis Martin of quarterbacks. You don't have to worry about the position with those guys and they'll perform well, but you don't necessarily build a team around them to highlight their skills. When Shula got Marino, he changed from a run-first team to a pass-first team. The Cowboys never became a pass-first team. The only conclusion is that they thought their team's talents were best suited for a run-first team.

Rain Man 12-19-2008 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5312131)
Well, if you'd stop dreaming of 8-8, beating your kicker's meat, and drawing up sweet third down draw plays . . .

But 8-8 is what I strive for. It's perfect symmetry. Yin and Yang. Why would I seek imbalance?

Mecca 12-19-2008 07:31 PM

You do understand that Aikman was the 1st pick right, yes they had alot of good players but he was the 1st player Jimmy Johnson drafted and the guy they built the rest of the team around.

Just because they were a team that was built on running the ball and playaction passing does not devalue what Aikman was or what he meant to him, he was the guy that kept that team in line on the field.

Baby Lee 12-19-2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5312137)
Just because they were a team that was built on running the ball and playaction passing does not devalue what Aikman was or what he meant to him, he was the guy that kept that team in line on the field.

ROFL ROFL - if only there were a word that encapsulated . . . .

Mecca 12-19-2008 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5312139)
ROFL ROFL - if only there were a word that encapsulated . . . .

Yea because the Cowboys were never inline on the field right....for all their issues they were always kept in line on the field because every single player on that team had respect for Aikman.

Rain Man 12-19-2008 07:35 PM

How'd the Cowboys do, though, when Emmitt Smif held out and they were starting Sherman Williams or whomever? I seem to recall that that was ugly. Then Emmitt Smif came back and I think they won the Super Bowl.

I think Johnson was a good coach purely because he didn't build the team around one player. He built a team (at least, an offense) that was strong all around. But if I had to pick the centerpiece of that offense, it was Smif.

Rain Man 12-19-2008 07:36 PM

Dang it. Gotta go. Keep fighting the good fight, Baby Lee.

Mecca 12-19-2008 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5312142)
How'd the Cowboys do, though, when Emmitt Smif held out and they were starting Sherman Williams or whomever? I seem to recall that that was ugly. Then Emmitt Smif came back and I think they won the Super Bowl.

I think Johnson was a good coach purely because he didn't build the team around one player. He built a team (at least, an offense) that was strong all around. But if I had to pick the centerpiece of that offense, it was Smif.

If you had taken Aikman away the same thing would have happened....they were both equally valuable which is why they are both HOFers.

Baby Lee 12-19-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5312141)
Yea because the Cowboys were never inline on the field right....for all their issues they were always kept in line on the field because every single player on that team had respect for Aikman.

You're drinking, aren't you? Mouse turds?

Wasn't laughing about the thought that Aikman kept them in line. I'm laughing because keeping them in line is what a game manager does, and you touted it as his best skill after arguing for weeks that to call him that is an insult.

Mecca 12-19-2008 07:40 PM

.....god you're a reerun.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-19-2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5312106)
A 24-12 road loss is an ass whupping?

The game wasn't nearly that close. It was an ass kicking.

Mecca 12-19-2008 07:47 PM

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That's just a game manager folks, uh huh.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-19-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 5312103)
See now, you must realize how much you're flailing, espousing two SHITTY SHITTY game managers as the quintessential game managing QB.


That's about like saying that American cars suck because the Pinto was the best car they ever made and it sucked.

Actually Grbac "managed" the hell out of that Denver game. He just couldn't make plays when they couldn't run the football. A true franchise QB would have won that game.

banyon 12-19-2008 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 5312142)
How'd the Cowboys do, though, when Emmitt Smif held out and they were starting Sherman Williams or whomever? I seem to recall that that was ugly. Then Emmitt Smif came back and I think they won the Super Bowl.
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The great Derek Lassic. He of Alabama National Title fame.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-19-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by banyon (Post 5312163)
The great Derek Lassic. He of Alabama National Title fame.

They lost a shitload of talent from 92-93. To say that it was all just Emmitt Smith is a farce.

Jimmy Johnson even said to Trumpy before the Super Bowl "Last year we had a Royal Flush, this year we have a Full House."


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