Jason. Normally I've liked you. Suddenly today we are having a football discussion. You didn't like my point. So you told me to go wash someones balls.

So wtf?
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you know i normally like you, too. but the "they still suck" got me, sorry about the "go wash ROR's balls" thing.:D

To me the win loss record this year is not nearly as important as seeing evidence of steady improvment. I honestly have no idea how many games we'll win, haven't even given it much thought. My main concern is how well these guys come together and play as a team. So far, IMHO, it looks like things are headed the right direction.

thats what i was trying to get at, well said

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Here; borrow Sauto Discipline Stick, and whack that rose colored glasses-wearing, Sake-fetching sonofabitch up side the head until he learns proper respect!

I only saw one game of his last year,

I hate to say it, but evidence of steady improvement this year has to show up in the win/loss record. I mean, if 3 wins is evidence of steady improvement we be pacing ourselves too slow. Plus, I'm going to tell you that if our win/loss record is not considerably better than last year, our good players will lose morale and start bailing, in-fighting, crying trade; all of the symptoms of over-paid athletes whiner's disease.

you should really come visit sometime, i always like to meet other chiefs fans. oh damn i almost forgot you ARENT EVEN A CHIEFS FAN, you are a perpetrator. still come visit sometime, lets see if that little stick could hold up

Palmer didn't play the Patriots last year :)

he, as usual, doesnt know what the **** he's talking about

That's why I said "I think" it was against NE. It was one of the tougher teams.

There are so many pieces to the puzzle when putting together a winning team it's mind boggling....to me anyways. If Pioli is able to do it in his first year, especially considering what he had to work with right from the start it will be a miracle. I'm not expecting that at all this first year. It will take a little time for him to pull it all together but I am confident he can do it. With all the changes that have been made from the top down this has already been the best year for the Chiefs in a long long time no matter what the win loss record is come December.

Probably the game vs the Giants.

yep, thats why its so funny to hear people say that the cassel deal will be a failure if he doesnt win a SB with usROFL like he can win one by himself. but when i use the same arguments in this thread against other qbs i'm not making senseROFL

Bingo. It was pretty early in the season. Thanks!

he had his best game of the season that week, and IIRC got the injury too.