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Mecca 09-04-2009 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6035734)
Thanks for the video. After watching that Berry is clearly head and shoulders better than Mays.

Reason why I say that is almost every tackle he doesn't wrap up he tries for the kill shot almost every time. That won't work in the NFL.

Berry is a ball hawking safety and I definitely see the comparison between him and Ed Reed.

Are you aware of how big Mays is?

dirk digler 09-04-2009 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035740)
Are you aware of how big Mays is?

yeah is about the same size as Pollard only a littler taller

If you have any other video of him wrapping up and tackling guys I would be willing to re-evaluate my position but in that video he was just throwing his shoulders into everybody and going for kill shots.

Mecca 09-04-2009 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6035745)
yeah is about the same size as Pollard only a littler taller

If you have any other video of him wrapping up and tackling guys I would be willing to re-evaluate my position but in that video he was just throwing his shoulders into everybody and going for kill shots.

Uh no, he is significantly larger than Pollard.

doomy3 09-04-2009 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035748)
Uh no, he is significantly larger than Pollard.

Pollard is 6'1" 224 lbs and Mays is 6'3" 235 lbs. I wouldn't say he is "significantly larger." Like Dirk said, he is a couple inches taller. That gives him the extra 10 lbs.

Mecca 09-04-2009 10:58 PM

If only Pollard could run like that or have that timing...I thought Pollard dropped a bunch of weight and was like 210 or 215 now...

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dirk digler 09-04-2009 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035748)
Uh no, he is significantly larger than Pollard.

Mays 6-3 230
Pollard 6-1 224

Uh yeah huge difference there.

I did see Mays runs around a 4.3 40 which is very good for his size

DrRyan 09-04-2009 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035451)
Everyone should have to watch this..

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DL would make no sense. I guess a case could me made for a NT like Cody. Right now, before the season starts, I would take Berry over Mays. Mays is obviously the better physical specimen, but there is something to be said about Berry's playmaking abilities. In a perfect world though I would prefer a stud pass rushing LB that reminds me think of DT. I don't think I have seen one of those coming out of this draft yet.

IMO winning football boiled down to its most simple formula is: keep your QB upright and knock down the other team's QB. Pass rusher round 1 and at least one O lineman round two.

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:02 PM

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That has some different ones in it..

doomy3 09-04-2009 11:02 PM

I love how Mecca is just completely wrong about something, and he immediately moves the goalposts to "well if he could run like him..."

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:04 PM

No offense here or anything but I thought Pollard was 6' 215, this huge deal was made last year about how he lost weight.

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:05 PM

And anyway Mays is going to be put in a role to answer the questions about him being a playmaker.

So the questions can be answered on the field, he's already shown he's a huge hitter and a great cover 1 safety.

doomy3 09-04-2009 11:06 PM

Both nfl.com and espn have him listed at 224.

BWillie 09-04-2009 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035770)
No offense here or anything but I thought Pollard was 6' 215, this huge deal was made last year about how he lost weight.

Even a lighter Pollard, still can't tackle. You have to tackle someone to be able to crush their bones. But that is what happens when you get a guy as fast as Sammy Knight but is 22 years old. I always wondered why everybody thought Pollard was so awesome his rookie year when he was blocking punts on special teams. Like that has anything to do with playing Safety.

doomy3 09-04-2009 11:06 PM

Has a safety ever been drafted top 3?

DBOSHO 09-04-2009 11:08 PM

i have an idea...lets trade pollard and page to the rams for their first and we get BOTH of em?


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