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DeezNutz 11-17-2010 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 7180132)
Truth is CP is incapable of deveoping a new QB. Matt Cassel is proof of that.

While you might be correct that the majority of posters would not have the patience for the Chiefs to develop a QB, Matt Cassel absolutely does not prove this.

When he was acquired: "We can hit the ground running with this guy."

Now: "He's evidence that we cannot develop a QB."

Come on...

Ming the Merciless 11-17-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7178956)
lol, wut?! I guess he'll be "developed" by 32?

He is 28 and in his 3rd full season....In the PRIME of his life. You're saying he is too old? The guy hasn't taken a beating at all over his career....He will be playing for a long time.

What a ****ing joke you are.

stevieray 11-17-2010 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7180153)
When he was acquired: "He'll hit the ground running (literally) with this oline."

what they really meant.

007 11-17-2010 05:16 PM

KK and Jack Harry were salivating over him today. They don't understand why a lot of fans don't like him. Kept gloating about his stats last week.

DeezNutz 11-17-2010 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7180163)
what they really meant.

LMAO.

The o-line criticism is overstated, however. You don't have the top rushing team in the league (for much of the season) with a terrible line. QBs who hold the ball too long, however, make an average line look poor.

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyHorse (Post 7180132)
He's better than this time last year. Thats all I mean by that.

In other words, there is no reason to think it wont continue. Same as any developmental player that would come in. ]

Truth is CP is incapable of deveoping a new QB. Matt Cassel is proof of that.

CP? Peterson was gone before we acquired Cassel if my memory is correct. Scot Pioli was in charge when Cassel was brought in.

DeezNutz 11-17-2010 05:22 PM

It was CP. Had to be. No one else would make such a stupid decision.

Ming the Merciless 11-17-2010 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7180168)
QBs who hold the ball too long, however, make an average line look poor.

QB's who hold the ball too long generally dont have the fewest sacks in the NFL....

Cassel has done a decent job getting rid of the ball..

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-17-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Samson (Post 7178987)
He's an average quarterback, and we still have a below average defense.

He's proved he can score a go-ahead touchdown, on the road, in the 4th quarter, against a division rival...but our defense has constantly proved they CANNOT consistently hold a team when it really matters.

He's an average quarterback, and we still have a below average defense.

Defense and Special Teams and even the running game can't win every game. When it's time to pass, you have to get those completions, even if you're not a "passing team". Now granted, last week's defensive anomaly( yep, I'm going with "anomaly" because I better not EVEN see that kind of "Pinkel Quit"-horseshit from this squad one more ****ing time)completely screwed the pooch, but the first half offensively speaks to the point.
Consistency and balance were sorely lacking against Dungver.

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7179057)
Too bad you can't see it right to give Cassel a chance with that faith. He is 9games into a new offense, a new offense for the 3rd time in 2 years. You expect a freaking miracle just because we have a better defense than we've had for many years.

What if....

the Chiefs somehow make it to the playoffs, is Cassel still crap?

the Chiefs win one or more games in the playoffs, is Cassel still crap?

the Chiefs make it to the Super Bowl this year and Cassel wins MVP. Is he still crap?

All of you on the left side of the fence will say yes and will be willing to ship him off because he doesn't meet your expectations. Have you ever wondered if he meets the expectations of the Chiefs administration?

ROFLROFLROFL Oh....oh...ROFLROFL....thanks dude, I needed that.

stevieray 11-17-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7180168)
LMAO.

The o-line criticism is overstated, however. You don't have the top rushing team in the league (for much of the season) with a terrible line. QBs who hold the ball too long, however, make an average line look poor.

...that's why they say an Oline has only given up _____sacks...:D

DeezNutz 11-17-2010 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7180181)
QB's who hold the ball too long generally dont have the fewest sacks in the NFL....

Cassel has done a decent job getting rid of the ball.

We're circling back to discussions of pre-snap reads and what happens when Cassel is not reliant on them.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-17-2010 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7179057)
Have you ever wondered if he meets the expectations of the Chiefs administration?

Every ****ing day of my life, friend.

Norman Einstein 11-17-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ROR (Post 7180184)
Defense and Special Teams and even the running game can't win every game. When it's time to pass, you have to get those completions, even if you're not a "passing team". Now granted, last week's defensive anomaly( yep, I'm going with "anomaly" because I better not EVEN see that kind of "Pinkel Quit"-horseshit from this squad one more ****ing time)completely screwed the pooch, but the first half offensively speaks to the point.
Consistency and balance were sorely lacking against Dungver.



ROFLROFLROFL Oh....oh...ROFLROFL....thanks dude, I needed that.

Didn't read the whole post did ya?

Missed the What if...

Just pointing out that no matter what Cassel might do people like you would dismiss his achievements. He might as well quit right now and find a team that has fans that would appreciate what his tasks are and how he is handling them, that surely can never happen in KC.

patteeu 11-17-2010 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7180168)
LMAO.

The o-line criticism is overstated, however. You don't have the top rushing team in the league (for much of the season) with a terrible line. QBs who hold the ball too long, however, make an average line look poor.

The line isn't terrible, it's just not good. It's much improved over last year, but it's still a fragile work in progress.

DeezNutz 11-17-2010 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 7180251)
It's much improved over last year, but it's still a fragile work in progress.

I agree with this. Many of us having been arguing for the need to draft a C and legit RT, and these are still pressing issues.


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