i didn't jump to any conclusions, i was speculating. but maybe this guy knows what he is talking about and that his wife and kids are better off without him.

I would think it would be safe to assume that anyone pouring out what he poured out on an anonymous message board is not in the right state of mind. Suicide is one of those things that you can't go back later and fix. Hopefully, he gets some counseling and gets his head straight.

Who knows. I don't even know this guy IRL. From the sound of his post though I got the impression that this guy was just depressed as **** about life in general. Over exactly what who knows.

Not referring to this instance at all, but most of the lowlifes I have crossed paths with in the past would never admit to a fault. Anyone who has the balls to honestly admit to their shortcomings is more likely than not a decent person IMO.

Edit: good work, Phil. This is no bodybuilders forum.

ZuZu's petals.

No.

Brianfo, if you read this post, please believe me when I tell you suicide is not the answer for anything. It's the most selfish act a human being can commit. It's never the right thing to do. Don't know what you're going through but there are solutions to most problems.

Your wife and children would never forgive you if you did this. Call a friend, minister/pastor/priest, or a suicide hotline. You need to talk to someone who will listen and give you sound advice. Your not thinking rationally at this time, trust me.

Heck, who's to say we're not in hell right now. And the fact you profess your love for your wife and kids means your not the worst husband/father in the world. I'd give anything to go back 30 to 35 years and have a redo at being a better father and husband. We make mistakes, we're human. Please call someone for help, there are people who will listen and give good counsel. I know, I've been there. Love and peace, Jim in Salina.

I just want to thank RubberSponge for letting us know that calling law enforcement to a suicidal guy's house at 2:00AM might not make everything sunshine and roses.
I think everyone probably thought it would.

They don't let inmates keep shoe laces

I was just about to type these words myself.

harharfuneegui you're a regular dane cook

Would you apologize if this call caused further problems with him and his home? I'm doubting you would.

He never said I am going to commit suicide. But many in here acted as if he had gun in hand. Based off of no facts, just assumptions. Most people that commit suicide don't announce it, they just do it. Especially men. Calling law enforcement may not have been the best idea was all I'm saying.

He made a post. Maybe he didn't respond because he felt embarrassed. Maybe the thread went way beyond his control. But let's just jump the gun(np) and call the coppers to bang on his door and probably scare the living shit out of his family at 2 in the morning, right? That's sounds like a great plan.

Whew, I was scared there for a second.

Why would I need to apologize for anything?
But you're right. Your position of sitting in a fence and second guessing is the best way.

He says he's thinking about suicide, says he has been for a while, lists reasons to support his beliefs, combine that with it being the holiday season and you have a recipe for disaster.

If anything at all it brought to a light the situation for his family to see. If it's out in the open then maybe he can get help.

The messed up thing is you denounce it as a bad move based on the same lack of information. Difference is Phil acted on the side of caution. Realistically, what could be the worst outcome of the cops banging on his door: at the least a minor inconvenience at the worst they pull him in and he gets help. Neither of which are bad things.

Now let's examine your philosophy of do nothing: the worst that could happen is he could be bleeding out on the carpet until his wife or kids find him.

When you compare the two the logic of Phil's decision speaks for itself.