Heh, pretty much. That PoS is a coach killer.

Yet another gem from Dumbshit Dave again.

Co-MVP in 2003?

Leading the Titans to the franchise's first Super Bowl in 2000?

3-time Pro Bowl QB?

Amazing that Dumsbshit Dave has been posting on this message board for nearly 11 years now and hasn't figured out a way to dislodge his head from his fat ass to put forth a semi-coherent thought.

I'd rep you if you weren't a stupid mult.

FYP

The more and more I think about Fisher to the Chiefs the more and more I am taken back to those heady days of 1989. Shall we travel back to those days?

The franchise is in the doldrums. A string of failures at head coach has cost the team dearly. The owner gets fed up and cleans house. The team needs to make a splashy hire. Something to fire up the fan base. The team hires Marty. A proven coach who has gotten his team so close the Super Bowl twice.

And what did we get? A lot of playoff losses and no franchise QB. And we were so close, we were just a QB away.

So everyone that thinks that Fisher is the answer needs to ask this question; Do we really want to go back to that?

Why do you equate hiring Jeff Fisher to the Chiefs not getting a franchise QB?

Fisher has a proven track record, as a head coach of drafting a franchise-caliber QB in the first round, Steve McNair and helping to develop him into an MVP, Pro Bowl, Super Bowl-caliber QB.

What you don't realize is that Fisher sees the value in a franchise QB.

He drafted one QB who had a few great years and one co-MVP season. And even then they only went to one Super Bowl and after that the playoff record is marginal at best.

Willing to bet that Fisher wants to put a vet (aka another broke dick) at QB. I don't see Fisher or Cowher wanting to put in more that 5 - 6 years at a new HC job.

Fisher, twice in Tennessee tried building around a first round-drafted QB. Steve McNair was a success, Vince Young was not. The point is though Fisher's approach was to build around a drafted, young QB rather than go the stop-gap veteran approach.

And why don't you see Fisher wanting to put in the time to draft and develop a QB in KC? He is 53 years old... 11 years younger than Romeo.

Only one coach, Parcells, has gone from one team (NY Giants) to another (NE Pats) and drafted (Bledsoe) and franchise QB. Recent history points to this trend continuing.

Also, if we remove the whole "Fisher would draft a QB" discussion Fisher is still an overrated coach. His record is not that impressive and remove the Super Bowl run of 13 years ago and is playoff record is 2 - 6.

And let's consider his last "sucessful" season was a carbon copy of what we had with Marty. Team with a vet QB (Collins), strong running game, strong defense, had home field throughout the playoffs (record of 13 - 3) and promptly lost in the first round.

Having watched the last 6 years of the Fisher coached Titans (I have lived in the Nashville area since 2004) I know his coaching approach is play not to lose and not play to win. Again, this is what we had during the Marty era. Strive for mediocrity and hope for some turn overs and / or luck is not a recipe for sucess. You can win a few games, make the playoffs now and again but unless you get extremely lucky (aka the Music City Miracle) you will never get to a Super Bowl.

Fisher didn't want Vince Young.

The silver lining is that Fisher swung and missed last time around.

I gotta think that if Marty were to come back to coaching, the first thing he'd do is try to get a QB. I don't see any reason to believe Fisher is any different.

These guys aren't stupid - they watch more football than we do.

No he didn't and he acted like a little kid while VY was on the team. And when the ultimatium was either Fisher or Young and the team cut Young, Fisher left anyhow. Real class act there.

"mult" implies posting under multiple names. I have never done that. I've been tossed twice, and a few days ago, I got hacked and my poster name changed.

But I have never posted under two names at the same time, and would still be posting as TFG if some of the morans here weren't so touchy being outed as morans...

I would tend to think that is not the full story, because it implies VY was just a prince who did everything right on and off the field, and that wasn't the case at all...