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Sofa King 02-29-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8407510)
Peyton was throwing to backs and receivers after practice since week 11 of last season and now throws the whole route tree.

Stick to the facts.

Why?

Guessing and making shit up is so much more fun. Paired with assuming the worst in all situations, and you've got yourself some golden posts.

tredadda 02-29-2012 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8407333)
I would rather draft Ryan Tannehill than rg3. What you kids don`t understand the street ball style of vick and others like him yes is fun to watch .But in the end that not win you games. Or draft weeden.

Does RGIII owe you money? I swear your dislike of him is hilarious. You keep comparing him to Vick even though the only similarities between the two are the fact they are both fast and black. So is it because he is fats that you have issues with him?

Sofa King 02-29-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8407519)
Does RGIII owe you money? I swear your dislike of him is hilarious. You keep comparing him to Vick even though the only similarities between the two are the fact they are both fast and black. So is it because he is fats that you have issues with him?

Eric's a troll. Don't sweat him. His posts are always opposite of the popular thought.

How he's still around here though, that's the mystery.

suds79 02-29-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407523)
Eric's a troll. Don't sweat him. His posts are always opposite of the popular thought.

How he's still around here though, that's the mystery.

Classic contrarian. If everybody hated RG3, he'd say "How can you deny this man's talent? You all are blind."

Fat Elvis 02-29-2012 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8407395)
Manning hasn't thrown a ball in over a year. There were the rumors that he's left with a noodle arm because of the nerve damage in his neck.

Besides the fact that he's 36, and coming off of, let's count them, one, two, three and four, neck surgeries.

I love the guy. One of the best ever. But he's 36 years old (as of March 24th) and has had multiple neck surgeries.

What do you think you are going to get from this guy at this point? Besides a massive salary cap hit and another two year delay in drafting and developing a young quarterback?

Here are couple a sobering facts: During Peyton Manning's LIFETIME, the Chiefs have a regular season record, on average, of 7-9. Peyton Manning has had as many playoff victories in ONE YEAR as the Chiefs have had during his ENTIRE LIFE.

People wonder why a lot of us want to draft RG3? That's why.

chiefzilla1501 02-29-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8407502)
No. A franchise QB isn't somebody you get a few good years out of. Green doesn't compare to Matt Ryan, who will probably still be playing 8-10 years from now.

You're arguing semantics. Regardless of label, Ryan and gren are good ABS who likely need a good supporting cast to get to the next level. For most qbS, even franchise qbs, you have to also be effective in the draft to support him.

Chiefnj2 02-29-2012 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8407551)
You're arguing semantics. Regardless of label, Ryan and gren are good ABS who likely need a good supporting cast to get to the next level. For most qbS, even franchise qbs, you have to also be effective in the draft to support him.

Every QB needs a good supporting cast to get to the next level.

tredadda 02-29-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 8407532)
Here are couple a sobering facts: During Peyton Manning's LIFETIME, the Chiefs have a regular season record, on average, of 7-9. Peyton Manning has had as many playoff victories in ONE YEAR as the Chiefs have had during his ENTIRE LIFE.

People wonder why a lot of us want to draft RG3? That's why.

Also lets not forget the Giants with Eli (whom they had to give up picks for) have more playoff wins this year than we have had since SB IV. Also they have as many SB rings with Eli (whom they again gave up picks for), as we have SB appearances. But lets not go big and get us a franchise QB. Lets keep doing it the way we always have and play it safe. Don't want to jeopardize the future.

Some say "wait till next year for our QB" Some problems with that though

1. We finished 7-9 minus Moeaki, Berry, and Charles with Cassel and Palko under center with one of the toughest schedules in the NFL. We get them back (hopefully not Cassel or Palko) and have an easier schedule, hard to think we will draft #11 next year.

2. This year's QB class was supposed to be deep, till it wasn't. Barkley and Jones went back to school making this QB very weak outside of the top 2 (hell Tannehill is looking like a Top 10-15 pick). Everyone thinks next years will be deep as well, but what if the underclassmen don't declare? Then it becomes weak again and we are right back in this situation again, except this time we might be trying to trade up from the 20's instead of #11.

No more excuses, this is the year to take the gamble. We have nothing to lose as the old ways do not work as our history has shown. Oh and I am agreeing with everything you have said. This response is not directed at you, just using your post to caveat on what you have been saying.

Epic Fail 007 02-29-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sofa King (Post 8407523)
Eric's a troll. Don't sweat him. His posts are always opposite of the popular thought.

How he's still around here though, that's the mystery.

No sofa,Erics not a troll your one to talk. Im not here to be a robot and post the in popular thing.

Fat Elvis 02-29-2012 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8407551)
You're arguing semantics. Regardless of label, Ryan and gren are good ABS who likely need a good supporting cast to get to the next level. For most qbS, even franchise qbs, you have to also be effective in the draft to support him.

I doubt it. Its hard to argue semantics with someone spewing gibberish.

Epic Fail 007 02-29-2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 8407519)
Does RGIII owe you money? I swear your dislike of him is hilarious. You keep comparing him to Vick even though the only similarities between the two are the fact they are both fast and black. So is it because he is fats that you have issues with him?

I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

Fat Elvis 02-29-2012 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8407634)
I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

If you think RG3 runs around like a "jackass" or that he can't make "pin point passes" then you've obviously have never seen him play. You are the only jackass around here by making those statements. RG3 is a pocket passer with pin point accuracy that happens to run a 4.4 forty.

milkman 02-29-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8407634)
I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

You are suggesting he is a run first QB, and that is far from the truth.

Now, I ask again.
Tell us all about this "street ball" he plays?

Epic Fail 007 02-29-2012 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 8407659)
If you think RG3 runs around like a "jackass" or that he can't make "pin point passes" then you've obviously have never seen him play. You are the only jackass around here by making those statements. RG3 is a pocket passer with pin point accuracy that happens to run a 4.4 forty.

Yes I have seen him play. Yes all that cute crap works in college not the nfl. Yes he completed passes against big 12 defense,COME ON NOW. Take the rose colored glasses off and look at the big picture.

tredadda 02-29-2012 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by eric007 (Post 8407634)
I do not dislike. I dislike the fact you assume im a racist. Im saying you do not win running around as a QB like some jack rabbit. I said nothing about color.Im talking about the style. The style is NOT a winning formula never has been. A QB is paid to make pin point passes not to be a RB and run around like a jackass. This is not a white,black issue I could care less about that.Any qb can run when LBS drop in coverage that takes no brains.So in closing a QB is suppose to throw. If they draft rg3 cool thats awesome. All I said who I would rather have.

Then stop comparing him to Vick. They have only three things in common.

1. Arm strength

2. Both are fast

3. You know what it is

The guy is head and shoulders a better QB prospect than Vick ever was.


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