Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702487)

Cover up was a bad word. My mistake. Sweep under a rug? You bet.

Originally Posted by Raiderhader (Post 8702447)

It is if you are talking about child molestation. That is a clear cut no thought required decision.

And anyone who thinks otherwise needs to be removed from the gene pool.

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8702492)

It is frightening that there are just people walking around out there that think like this. Makes me never want to have kids.

OK, here's an analogy. I'm trying to make it in entertainment, an industry famous for being about "who you know" and so on. If I walked in on Steven Spielberg and Harvey Weinstein tag teaming a 10 year old, I would be on the phone to the police so fast they'd still have their pants around their ankles when the cuffs went on. I would rather be reduced to flipping burgers for life than preserve my career at the expense of children.

That's not bragging. That's what any decent human being would do. It is NOT above and beyond. It is the bare ****ing minimum. I cannot believe the behavior some people will make excuses for.

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8702492)

It is frightening that there are just people walking around out there that think like this. Makes me never want to have kids.

OK, here's an analogy. I'm trying to make it in entertainment, an industry famous for being about "who you know" and so on. If I walked in on Steven Spielberg and Harvey Weinstein tag teaming a 10 year old, I would be on the phone to the police so fast they'd still have their pants around their ankles when the cuffs went on. I would rather be reduced to flipping burgers for life than preserve my career at the expense of children.

That's not bragging. That's what any decent human being would do. It is NOT above and beyond. It is the bare ****ing minimum. I cannot believe the behavior some people will make excuses for.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702529)

If you follow the thread I am saying tthere are a ton of factors with career being oonly one aspect. Its not even close to the same example. I still push for the example of a private going over the generals head to leak info about a colonel's misconduct.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702529)

If you follow the thread I am saying tthere are a ton of factors with career being oonly one aspect. Its not even close to the same example. I still push for the example of a private going over the generals head to leak info about a colonel's misconduct.

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 8702492)

It is frightening that there are just people walking around out there that think like this. Makes me never want to have kids.

OK, here's an analogy. I'm trying to make it in entertainment, an industry famous for being about "who you know" and so on. If I walked in on Steven Spielberg and Harvey Weinstein tag teaming a 10 year old, I would be on the phone to the police so fast they'd still have their pants around their ankles when the cuffs went on. I would rather be reduced to flipping burgers for life than preserve my career at the expense of children.

That's not bragging. That's what any decent human being would do. It is NOT above and beyond. It is the bare ****ing minimum. I cannot believe the behavior some people will make excuses for.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702496)

For Paterno curley and Schwartz yes. For mcqueary there are repercussions. Should still rise above those repercussions, but again, an easy decision made more difficult hecause authorities didn't do their job.

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8702557)

Joe Paterno isn't a general. He's well known person who made his living in a trivial form of entertainment.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702529)

If you follow the thread I am saying tthere are a ton of factors with career being oonly one aspect. Its not even close to the same example. I still push for the example of a private going over the generals head to leak info about a colonel's misconduct.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702567)

Graham spanier, psu president
Curley, head of psu police

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702567)

Graham spanier, psu president
Curley, head of psu police

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 8702414)

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8702571)

You say that like it's supposed to mean something. This isn't the East German Stasi.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 8702720)

It does mean something. The guy who oversees the psu police didn't act on it and in fact tried to cover it up. And yes, psu police has the enforcement power of real cops. These weren't mall cops.

In 1998 a similar sandusky investigation occurred. local police and the DA didn't act on it.

So again, your boss, his boss, the university president, the head of police, local police... They all know this is happening. You tell them and nothing happens. The only option is to go above and beyond and fight the system against heavy hitters with a ton of influence. He should have fought the system. But again lets not pretend its easy.

Most of the right people knew. There were people in a position of power that were purposely covering this up.