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RealSNR 10-11-2012 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9004232)
BINGO.

Saying anything to the contrary is an insane amount of wishful thinking.

Trading up and drafting Moeaki when Graham was on the board is another ****ing notch on the Pioli fail belt.

Graham's interview with the Chiefs went well, but then he got caught up in the excitement and flexed right in front of Pioli. Can't do that.

Deberg_1990 10-12-2012 07:00 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9004232)
BINGO.

Saying anything to the contrary is an insane amount of wishful thinking.

Trading up and drafting Moeaki when Graham was on the board is another ****ing notch on the Pioli fail belt.

I dont think i can properly evaulate guys like Baldwin, McCluster, Moeaki, until we get a more consistent QB and passing game. ALl i know is that Orton did a better job of spreading the ball around and getting the other recievers involved besides Bowe.

beach tribe 10-12-2012 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9004617)
I dont think i can properly evaulate guys like Baldwin, McCluster, Moeaki, until we get a more consistent QB and passing game. ALl i know is that Orton did a better job of spreading the ball around and getting the other recievers involved besides Bowe.

This. It's hard to evaluate a WR when all the QB does is look at Bowe, or McCluster, and then check down. If Balwin had a guy like Brees who goes through his progressions, I guarantee he would have better numbers.

CoMoChief 10-12-2012 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9004617)
I dont think i can properly evaulate guys like Baldwin, McCluster, Moeaki, until we get a more consistent QB and passing game. ALl i know is that Orton did a better job of spreading the ball around and getting the other recievers involved besides Bowe.

This

Cassel did nothing but lock onto Bowe, or check down.

Deberg_1990 10-12-2012 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 9004629)
This. It's hard to evaluate a WR when all the QB does is look at Bowe, or McCluster, and then check down. If Balwin had a guy like Brees who goes through his progressions, I guarantee he would have better numbers.

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9004636)
This

Cassel did nothing but lock onto Bowe, or check down.

Even Breaston has all but disappeared and Orton targeted him frequently.

CoMoChief 10-12-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 9004642)
Even Breaston has all but disappeared and Orton targeted him frequently.

Hell Orton spread the ball to even Leonard ****ing Pope.

Pasta Little Brioni 10-12-2012 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9004113)
Garbage time yards for Baldwin mostly.

Seriously.

Had a couple nice catches against the Saints, a nice grab against Baltimore.

The rest? Bullshit.

Your constant spinning is bull shit.

BoneKrusher 10-12-2012 07:39 AM

so, it was Pioli who made DJ a second stringer a couple years ago and not Haley?

Dave Lane 10-12-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9004112)
Breaston 250 career catches, 1000-yard season.

Baldwin = hype

How can anyone judge any of these receivers with Cassel as QB? Seriously all these stats are completely reeruned until we actually have an accurate QB under center that can throw past 15 yards.

Dave Lane 10-12-2012 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 9004674)
so, it was Pioli who made DJ a second stringer a couple years ago and not Haley?

DJ wasn't a Pioli pick so I doubt he cared what Haley did with him.

Mother****erJones 10-12-2012 08:23 AM

This all makes sense. I used to be like WTF Haley with his weekly inactives but this makes sense. Pioli has got to go. If his extension is true I'll throw up

Ace Gunner 10-13-2012 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9001802)
@kentbabb

Romeo Crennel has found a humane way to bench Matt Cassel without offending Big Brother. KC has probably seen the end of the Cassel era.

Haley battled w/Pioli about Pioli's demand to control gameday lineup. GM wanted to be head coach too. Wonder if Romeo in same boat.


A HC can't succeed if he lacks unquestioned control over game-day moves. Crennel's concussion is unfortunate, but this is RAC's Bastille Day.

Oops a daisy. Meant Cassel's concussion, of course, though Crennel's coaching definitely has led to dizziness and nausea.

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Just more proof that Pioli needs to be shown the door.

So, Pioli was the one who called Tyler Palko's number while keeping Ricki Stanzi cozy on the bench.

Whoops.

Haley haters have been proved wrong again :)

Otter 10-13-2012 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 9004636)
This

Cassel did nothing but lock onto Bowe, or check down.

Matt Cassel did nothing but hang his receivers out to dry and wait for Ray Leiwis or one or those horse like linebackers grab a hold of them and twist a head off. I know it's no secret but that dude is not a good QB. The sooner the better.

Imagine being Dwayne Bowe with your whole career ahead of you having to stop in mid-stide waiting for Ray ****ing Lewis to deliver a hit. Go suck a dick. You try to catch one of those ducks you skinny penis.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2012 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 9004670)
Your constant spinning is bull shit.

Did Baldwin rack up garbage time yards against Buffalo? Yes.

Did he rack up rack up garbage time yards against San Diego? Yes.

He did have a nice game against the Saints, and one catch against Baltimore, so kudos for performing well at a 4th-round pick level.

htismaqe 10-13-2012 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 9004739)
How can anyone judge any of these receivers with Cassel as QB? Seriously all these stats are completely reeruned until we actually have an accurate QB under center that can throw past 15 yards.

Unfortunately you can't.

It may not be fair but Bowe and Breaston have done it. They've performed with and without Cassel. Baldwin hasn't. And until he does, he's not going to get the benefit of the doubt.

Notice I didn't say he was a bust. Right now he's just hype. And I think the Chiefs did that on purpose to undermine Bowe.


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