Dont think Harden is a max guy. Yes, I know he lit up the Pistons but can he carry a team by himself? Doubt it.

he doesnt need to carry a team, the team just needs to make money off marketing him.

hes not going to win a championship in Houston and Houston was never getting a superstar or winning without him, thats the problem with markets like that, they will never get another Hakeem or even Yao. So why not get a really good young player instead. The fanbase is happy and everyone wins

Harden is a very likable player. i don't know how many games they'll win, but with Lin and him they will put asses in the seats. Too bad for them they spent so much on Lin. A different type of player would have been a better compliment.

They collapsed due to DeRozan's incredible uselessness (who the Raptors will now be paying $40M over 4 years because Brian Colangelo doesn't know how to step away) and Bargnani's poor defense down the stretch on D. West. So basically, the same thing as the last few years. Lowry and Valanciunas were great, though, and huge upgrades on what they had in those positions last year. If the two old stalwarts don't get in the way too much, they have a chance to make the playoffs.

I don't know why the Raptors didn't involve themselves in the Harden talks, though. He would have been perfect for them. The kind of wing talent they haven't had since Vince Carter was still there.

Investing the money they have in DeRozan and Landry should be grounds for firing

And giving $24M to Jason Kapono. And giving $34M to Amir Johnson. And giving $53M to Hedo Turkoglu.

So there's nothing new here (although giving the useless, one-dimensional, inefficient DeRozan $40M may top all of those). Colangelo has driven the organization into the ground several times over and is putting stake after stake into it at this point (kind of like a certain Chiefs GM but with three more years of failure).

I thought BC had turned a corner by swiping Lowry, who's a damn good player. But, alas, he throws DeRozan $40M. Roughly the same money that Lawson, Holiday, Curry, and Taj Gibson all received yesterday. And they're all significantly more valuable. Even if DeRozan played well this year, he'd have been a restricted free agent they could have matched, and no team was likely to throw $40M at him.

$40 million on DeRozan should be grounds for firing. I do like Kyle Lowry though.

BC lucked into Lowry in a sense. He was fully prepared to give Nash $40M over three years just to use his Canadian nationality as a way to hype up the product (and even gave that scrub Fields $20M in a convoluted attempt to stop Nash from going to the Knicks). When Nash didn't take the money, it enabled him to trade for Lowry (who admittedly is a good young PG that a team can grow with).

There are no words for giving a player like DeRozan $40M, though. I don't think he's even worth half of that considering all of his many deficiencies. I'd like to say I was surprised when I saw the contract terms, but overpaying mediocre players is Colangelo's MO. I don't think I'll be able to fully embrace the Raptors again until they get rid of him (which kind of puts me in a similar spot to what we have in KC with the Chiefs).

The good thing about tonight's Chiefs game is ill have an excuse to change the channel at 8:30.

I love having PiP with DTV, watching both the Chiefs game and the Spurs\Thunder.

So far damn good game. OKC really hasn't lost a beat

Thunder up! Harden looked strange in a Rockets uniform last night. :mad:

I'm happy with how OKC has looked so far for the most part. We never play well in SA so I never expected to win this game pre-trade either.

There's fellow okies here...nice!

this OKC team wont be bad if Martin buys in. Martin doesnt look that bad on the court with KD and Westy together.