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-King- 04-15-2013 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 9587901)
Quarterback hurries, run blocking. If the RT you're playing on the opposite end of is a sieve, the LT's numbers are going to be skewed.

I'm not saying Albert doesn't pass an eye test, I'm saying that I can't use strictly sacks to evaluate them.
I cant find the one for 2012 but according to PFF, he was top 10 in QB pressures last year.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/02/20/2011-pass-blocking-efficiency-offensive-tackles/
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Rausch 04-15-2013 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 9587966)
I want Tyler Wilson on this team as much as I want Tyrann Mathieu on this team - not even in the slightest.
I wake up some nights in a cold sweat after hearing we've taken Bray in the 2nd round.

It's like selecting Rosie O'donnell to represent women's rights and then I have to listen to my wife scream and yell for 30+ years...

patteeu 04-15-2013 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9587972)
I cant find the one for 2012 but according to PFF, he was top 10 in QB pressures last year.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...nsive-tackles/
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One problem with both number of sacks allowed and number of pressures is that neither of them take into account that Albert was only a part-timer last year. You need to look at those measures on a per pass blocking snap basis to compare to other players (Albert was still pretty good on those two measures last year).

But that's still a fairly narrow view into Albert's effectiveness.

Rausch 04-15-2013 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9587994)
One problem with both number of sacks allowed and number of pressures is that neither of them take into account that Albert was only a part-timer last year. You need to look at those measures on a per pass blocking snap basis to compare to other players (Albert was still pretty good on those two measures last year).

But that's still a fairly narrow view into Albert's effectiveness.
And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)

Bowser 04-15-2013 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9587977)
I wake up some nights in a cold sweat after hearing we've taken Bray in the 2nd round.

It's like selecting Rosie O'donnell to represent women's rights and then I have to listen to my wife scream and yell for 30+ years...
Your mind is ill. Seek help, immediately. :D

The Franchise 04-15-2013 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9588006)
And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)
And with a rookie LG next to him.

BigCatDaddy 04-15-2013 10:54 AM
People yearn for the days of Jordan Black and Damien McIntosh.

Rausch 04-15-2013 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9588010)
And with a rookie LG next to him.
Who was ****ing 'turrible.

Just Turrible...

http://lestermillman.com/yahoo_site_...121401_std.jpg

B14ckmon 04-15-2013 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9588006)
And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)
Or the fact that the Chiefs were towards the BOTTOM in the league in passing attempts and towards the TOP in rushing attempts.

Your lack of passing offense is making you overrate Albert.

patteeu 04-15-2013 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 9588006)
And that's not even taking into consideration that he protected the two worst starting QB's in the league (he did.)
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 9588010)
And with a rookie LG next to him.
Both of those things are true, but excuses don't make a strong case that Albert is special as opposed to merely above average.

-King- 04-15-2013 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9587994)
One problem with both number of sacks allowed and number of pressures is that neither of them take into account that Albert was only a part-timer last year. You need to look at those measures on a per pass blocking snap basis to compare to other players (Albert was still pretty good on those two measures last year).

But that's still a fairly narrow view into Albert's effectiveness.
Its not that hard to find snaps played stats. That link I posted gave the number of pass block snaps. Albert gave up 24 pressures on 545 pass blocks.
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BigCatDaddy 04-15-2013 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by patteeu (Post 9588062)
Both of those things are true, but excuses don't make a strong case that Albert is special as opposed to merely above average.
Nobody is punching his ticket to Canton. Most are merely point out he's a top 5-10 LT and replacing him or moving him doesn't seem to be the best way to upgrade the team.

Mother****erJones 04-15-2013 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9588037)
Or the fact that the Chiefs were towards the BOTTOM in the league in passing attempts and towards the TOP in rushing attempts.

Your lack of passing offense is making you overrate Albert.
Not when our QBs hold the ball twice as long.

B14ckmon 04-15-2013 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones (Post 9588073)
Not when our QBs hold the ball twice as long.
Twice as long as who?

Mother****erJones 04-15-2013 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9588080)
Twice as long as who?
As a normal QB in this league.


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