I'm going to respectfully disagree, considering that within hours of the Alex Smith deal being leaked, Geno Smith magically became worth a top pick, and everyone and their brother was screaming for Oakland to take him.

And FWIW, I'll gladly take "what if" over "we already know".

Have we truly gotten word from "football people," though? The Piolis of the world don't count, as he's a ****ing football moron.

I've said many, many times that although I would disagree with them not taking a QB at 1.1, I could accept it. What I find wholly objectionable is the manner in which they hitched the wagon to Alex Smith for the next 2+ years, because with the nature of that trade they aren't just passing on the QBs in this draft, but the next as well.

Not even then really. I think the Colts have won 8+ games something like 15 of the last 19 years. They were a playoff team each of the years before tanking to get Luck and Manning.

"Football people" have also said that the Chiefs have "won the offseason" several times in the past few years.

"Football people" said the Matt Cassel deal was a great move.

"Football people" say some really stupid shit sometimes.

I know. You are not a lunatic. You can back up your opinion with facts. Its a perfectly legitimate opinion. I agreed in the OP that we should have taken Geno and paid too much for Smith. It's done. There is no going back. The only thing we can do is make a choice on how to handle the new reality.

The vast majority of Chief fans are happy with the moves that have been made. If I was a betting man, In 5 years, I'd put more money on your views over the vast majority. That being said, for me personally, after years of being negative about this team, I'm going to chose to have a little hope.

Yep.

Which means they better knock the next three drafts out of the ****ing park, because by the time we have a legitimate QB, guys like Charles, Hali, Flowers, Bowe, Albert, etc will be on the decline.

Going to be hard to do when you're likely to use the 1st overall on a RT and don't have the 34th overall.

The two most valuable picks this regime will likely ever see, and they're wasted.

I agree. Most loyal KC fans will still give them some slack in that situation. The casuals will be back if they got it right. Two years of average then followed by a few learning years for a young QB is even worse for the pysche and stability of the fanbase.

The vast majority of Chiefs fans thought Cassel just needed more weapons, that Pioli just needed more time, that RAC was a defensive genius, etc.

The vast majority of Chiefs fans are ****ing ignorant about football.

Ohhh. Shit.

LMAO... :facepalm:

What a ride this fanship is, wouldnt miss it for nothin.

Great point.

For me, I can't handle a couple years of average QB play and no real threat or hope in the backup spot. That is too depressing and that's what I fear is going to happen. I understand your stance, but I just see us going down the road of decent QB that takes a while to prove clearly that he isn't the guy.

I think it's pretty clear no one is that impressed with this year's group. We're a month before the draft and the reviews have been fairly mixed. And I think that's being kind. Although I think guys will go in the top 10 because of the importance of the position. And furthermore, there will be guys in this class that probably have success. They just can't figure out who because the tape is so mixed.

I never put much value in how McShay and Kiper and Mayock rate people, but some of the comments and thoughts they have are obviously direct thoughts from scouts across the league, given the way they present them.

34=560
Mid second rounder (16th overall) is worth 420 points

The 16th pick is worth 1000.

If we win a few playoff games, it's a steal...if we go two years without making the playoffs, it was a massive fail of a trade.

How is his post speculation?

Harbaugh benched Alex Smith in favor of a second round pick for the previous draft and he lead the team to the superbowl.
I agree there. No question.

I just want to enjoy watching Chiefs football again.

Hopefully, Alex Smith plays out of his mind for a few years and the trade is a huge win...I just know better. I've seen this movie like 6 times already.

Hence the majority of my money on your opinion.:p