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Fansy the Famous Bard 03-26-2014 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10518351)
Fred taking his team to their first and not last Sweet Sixteen

http://youtu.be/6MK0qRGGZrYhttp://youtu.be/6MK0qRGGZrY

As much as I love Hoiberg, you're only allowed to use the swim move so many times during one dance routine.

Bearcat 03-26-2014 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 10518275)
You guys don't have prison bitch on ignore yet? He's either hysterical or trolling.


Two clicks...

RustShack 03-26-2014 01:15 PM

Wow I just read this article.. It's a little harsh.

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/s...ch-looks-like/
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The Road To Dallas
Kansas choke embarrassment is not on Andrew Wiggins: Iowa State shows Bill Self what a real coach looks like
By Chris Baldwin
March 23rd, 2014

Photo by Tom Pennington/Getty Images
DeAndre Kane carried Iowa State and in many ways made up for the Big 12's Kansas disappointment.

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SAN ANTONIO — The Old Man of College Basketball isn’t thinking about all the freshmen stars who've flamed out before him in the NCAA Tournament when he takes off for the basket. DeAndre Kane — the soon to be 25-year-old Iowa State senior — isn’t even thinking of his late father.

No, Kane is just thinking that his coach has given him a great chance to win the game.

That’s what good coaches do. Kane turns Iowa State coach Fred Hoiberg’s isolation play into gold, driving all the way into the lane — waiting for a double team that never comes. So Kane keeps going, hoists up an off-balance, acrobatic shot that’s never in danger of missing.

Iowa State 85, North Carolina 83.

“He’s been our Mariano Rivera,” Hoiberg says of Kane, a Marshall transfer who’s helped transform the Iowa State program. “He’s been our closer all season.”

Self's been the architect of so many of these collapses and his inability to ever really take advantage of a supernova of ability like Wiggins is damning.
Kane isn’t the Cyclones most talented player. That’s Big 12 Player of the Year Melvin Ejim. He’s not Iowa State’s most invaluable player. That’s injured forward Georges Niang in Hoiberg’s estimation.

But Hoiberg still knows to call the play for the gritty old man from Pittsburgh in the clutch.

There’s a coaching lesson in there for Kansas head man Bill Self.

For while Self sets his much more talented team up to choke again, failing to ever really define a lost Andrew Wiggins' role, Hoiberg helps save the Big 12.

Every player on Iowa State knows his role — from Ejim to Kane to sixth-man 3-point gunner Naz Long. Hoiberg — the former NBA role player — has built a real culture of accountability. And a more than healthy hunger.

“When we won (the Big 12), we didn’t feel like we got as much respect as we deserved,” Ejim says. “We’ve got a lot of guys with a chip.”

The Jayhawks have a lot of guys with a sense of entitlement.

Kansas chokes away another NCAA Tournament as a high seed, a higher seed than the tournament conference champ Cyclones. Wiggins — the super talent sure to still go in the Top 5 of the NBA Draft — is shouldering much of the blame after a putrid four point, four turnover game.

But Jayhawks coach Bill Self is the real culprit.

He’s been the architect of so many of these collapses and his inability to ever really take advantage of a supernova of ability like Wiggins is damning.

You can bet that if Wiggins went to Kentucky and played for coach John Calipari instead, he’d still be the sure No. 1 pick everyone expected him to be. He’d also still be playing.

Kansas specializes in the collapse. This is a program that consistently gags under pressure.

If Kansas isn’t losing to an 11th seed in the Elite Eight (VCU in 2011), it’s falling to a 14th seed (Bucknell in 2005) or a 13th seed early (Bradley in 2006).

It’s no surprise that Kansas is one of the five Big 12 teams to go home on the tournament’s first full weekend — joining Texas, Kansas State, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State. And it’s no surprise that Iowa State is one of the two still left dancing, heading to Madison Square Garden for the Sweet 16, two wins from the Final Four in Arlington.

There’s the Choke Coach and there’s the Clutch Coach.

North Carolina Timeout Blunder

Hoiberg’s team isn’t just much more poised than Self’s team. It’s much more calm when it matters than Roy Williams’ blueblood Carolina team too.

After Kane hits that shot with 1.6 seconds left in a great, up-and-down game, the Tar Heels never even get a shot off. Looking for Williams to call a timeout, Carolina guard Nate Britt calls one instead — as the clock hits zero and the final buzzer sounds.

“We’ve got a bunch of guys who aren’t afraid to play close games,” Kane says.

Kane’s endured his share of heartbreak. The father who helped keep him out of the gang scene all around him growing up suddenly died of a brain aneurysm when he was in college.

"He’s been our Mariano Rivera. He’s been our closer all season.”
In a quiet moment in the locker room amid all the madness in San Antonio, The Old Man of College Basketball couldn’t help but think of the dad who died much too young.

“I think about him a lot,” Kane says, an NCAA towel wrapped around his shoulders. “He’s up there smiling.”

Iowa State builds two different nine-point leads in the first half, only to watch North Carolina come roaring back. At halftime, it’s a 40-37 game. With 12 minutes left, it’s all knotted at 53. With 9:30 remaining, things are tied at 60. In the final 10 seconds, it's 83-83 and Hoiberg is putting the ball in Kane's large hands.

The action is frantic and back and forth. This is one of the highest level games played in the NCAA Tournament’s opening weekend.

Forget Cinderella.

When one of the nation’s most storied college basketball bluebloods faces off against the Big 12’s champion, a different kind of magic can emerge.

The Old Man of College Basketball finishes with 24 points, 10 rebounds and seven assists, puts his mark all over one of the best NCAA Tournament games you’ll ever see. It’s the kind of game a 19-year-old Andrew Wiggins should have on the big stage.

If only Wiggins had a better, clutch coach.

Chris Baldwin on Google+

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Comments


Mr. Plow 03-26-2014 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10518310)
Iowa States gonna have some height next year for the first time under Fred. Especially if we add Temple transfer Lee that pretty much every school has called.

Every year everyone says Iowa State is going back down because we lose everyone... But Fred just puts out an even better team the next year. We only lose Ejim and Kane, so next years team will be his most experienced one he's had by far. Nader and McKay coming in who sat out this year, and still two openings one likely going to Anthony Lee.

LMAO

I like how you say ISU will ONLY lose Ejim & Kane. You're only losing the Big 12 Player of the Year, your second leading scorer, Big 12 leader in assists, and one of the top 5 rebounders in the conference. But yeah, you should be better next year.

Reerun_KC 03-26-2014 01:20 PM

LOL at Rusty homer article...

Bearcat 03-26-2014 01:25 PM

LMAO

I love how people have to go back 8+ years when Self had a mix of Roy's upper classmen and his own freshman to prove how he chokes all the time.... you know, the freshman who ended up winning a NC 4 years later.... or else use examples like a very good 3 point shooting VCU. Stick with UNI and Stanford, and even those are 4 years apart and one was with a huge difference maker on the bench.

The only thing worth any thought is how tight KU plays at times in the tournament, but they're also usually the higher seed and have really high expectations, where as a team like ISU or an 8 seed Kentucky or WSU have chips on their shoulders for various reasons. I don't know how you tell Wiggins and those guys to just relax, etc; and I don't envy Self for having to try every year.

RustShack 03-26-2014 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow (Post 10518425)
LMAO

I like how you say ISU will ONLY lose Ejim & Kane. You're only losing the Big 12 Player of the Year, your second leading scorer, Big 12 leader in assists, and one of the top 5 rebounders in the conference. But yeah, you should be better next year.

We lost a lot more last year. You guys didn't think we'd be as good, we got better. Exact same story as the year before after we lost Royce, Allen, and Christopherson.

I'm sure I'll hear it again next year too even though we only lose Hogue.

Pablo 03-26-2014 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10518472)
We lost a lot more last year. You guys didn't think we'd be as good, we got better. Exact same story as the year before after we lost Royce, Allen, and Christopherson.

I'm sure I'll hear it again next year too even though we only lose Hogue.

I'm also sure we'll roll you guys on our way to another Big 12 title. You've got the S16 (and possibly more) on us this year.

I'd suggest sticking to that talking point.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-26-2014 02:03 PM

Lol at the choking against double digit seeded teams. Self is 16-4 against those. Hardly choking.

Fansy the Famous Bard 03-26-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10518472)
We lost a lot more last year. You guys didn't think we'd be as good, we got better. Exact same story as the year before after we lost Royce, Allen, and Christopherson.

I'm sure I'll hear it again next year too even though we only lose Hogue.

You didn't lose 2 of the top 5 players within the entire conference last season... or even the year before. Ejim\Kane are two of the top 5... IN... THE.... ENTIRE..... CON-FER-ENCE.

but no big deal. you'll just get better.

Prison Bitch 03-26-2014 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10518414)
Iowa State shows Bill Self what a real coach looks like

They are now 4-20 against Bill Self:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Se...ence_opponents

RustShack 03-26-2014 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10518554)
You didn't lose 2 of the top 5 players within the entire conference last season... or even the year before. Ejim\Kane are two of the top 5... IN... THE.... ENTIRE..... CON-FER-ENCE.

but no big deal. you'll just get better.

Yep, happens in college athletics all the time. Lose good players and replace them. We don't HAVE to have someone just like Kane to come in to be good. There's other ways to win, other teams are winning without Ejim and Kane too.

The cupboard isn't bare at Iowa State anymore.

RustShack 03-26-2014 02:10 PM

Oh and Nader who's sitting out after transfering in is reguarded as the best guy on the team. So there's that.

Chiefs Pantalones 03-26-2014 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 10518414)
Wow I just read this article.. It's a little harsh.

http://houston.culturemap.com/news/s...ch-looks-like/

Sorry, Rusty. As long as KU is in this conference, you're not winning it. And we'll continue to own you. Congrats on the S16 though.

Prison Bitch 03-26-2014 02:14 PM

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“When we won (the Big 12), we didn’t feel like we got as much respect as we deserved,” Ejim says. “We’ve got a lot of guys with a chip.”
They got the POY and another 1st team selection. What lack of respect is he talking about? They were swept by Kansas in the regular season and finished 3 full games behind them.


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