Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16830311)

He knows they don't have the horses.

Look, I totally buy that certain offensive systems and play-callers have a huge effect on whether that offense is successful or not.

I don't think it's as big of an effect on a defense. If you look at all of the great defenses, they have great talent. Period. Defense is a more visceral thing.

Even the Bears 46 defense was named after a safety (Fencik, I think it was?), and worked primarily because of 1)a dominant pass rush and 2) the particular abilities of specific players. Same with the Tampa 2. Same with the 2000 Ravens. It goes on, and on.

The Bills defense looked really good until Von Miller got hurt and other injuries piled up.

Frazier knows they're not going to be as good this year, and if they tank, it hurts his career opportunities.

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 16830430)

Buffalo's window is already closing before they won anything and they don't have a Veach-like GM to effectively draft and build a roster around Josh Allen's contract.

Sucks to be them.

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16830431)

I thought it was called a 46 defense because it had 4 down lineman but 6 on the LOS (with the 2 LBs coming down to the line and a safety backfilling into the LB corps).

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16830445)

He was actually right. It was named after a player. It was Doug Plank.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-where-it-went

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 16830355)

I remember before the season when that moron OKchiefs said Beane was better than Veach

LMAO :facepalm:

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 16830440)

The window is open as long as they have an elite, healthy QB. They will need to draft better moving forward.

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 16830468)

I remember when someone told me the Chiefs should just draft DE's like Rousseau and whoever that other slapstick the Bills have.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830500)

Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stays like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16830504)

LMAO Man, you guys are way too stingy with the term "elite".

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830546)

I reserve Elite for guys who deserve it....you know, guys who have won their division consistently.....been in at least 4 AFCG....3 Super Bowls and winning 2 of them...2 time League MVP.....2 time Super Bowl MVP....

Elite truly means the best of the best....

Come talk to me about Allen when he has even half of that.

Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830500)

Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 16830614)

You guys don't understand how enticing it is to run him when you need 3 yards.

It takes a tremendous amount of discipline to not take the easy route over and over.

The only way I would call a designed run for Allen is if the game is on the line in the playoffs. He needs to adapt and use his movements to buy time and throw.