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smithandrew051 03-21-2025 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 18006168)
I want someone that can legitimately threaten the edge when when we utilize outside zone.

I want someone that makes the DBs run conscious. They just don't have to give a shit at ALL against the run because they have all day to react to a handoff. They don't have to bite on play-actions because...who gives a shit? Stay in your drop-back an extra step. Get extra depth. At worst, it turns a 3 yard gain into a 4 yard gain because nobody's hitting the 2nd level and putting you under pressure.

The LBs don't have to worry about the edges either so they can crash the middle.

We have nobody that can threaten the edge and force CBs to at least respect the running game. It makes things quite a bit easier for those defensive backfield.

If I had any faith that Mitchell could handle even 100 touches without breaking, I'd be a little less concerned. I don't.

I just think we need someone that can pressure the defensive backfield.

Agree.

It’s basically the opposite of what we had with Jamaal. Loaded boxes constantly because no one respected Alex Smith’a ability to throw it downfield.

Now, teams have no reason to fear our backs. Even nice 8-15 yard runs with these guys should be 20+ yard runs if we had a back with burst.

It’d be nice to see a big play or two out of the run game again.

SAGA45 03-21-2025 06:26 PM

I'd take Judkins amongst RB's projected early. Size, burst, violence & hate, quickness, decent receiver, and speed to house one at any given time. Other than Jeanty, Judkins' film pops the most out of the top five or so RB options, in my opinion.

kccrow 03-21-2025 08:05 PM

I lie more in the DJ camp of what I want to see from a runner. I just don't think that guy has to A) be a 4.3 runner nor B) be a high draft pick.

We were able to threaten with guys like Kareem Hunt in his prime, Damien Williams and Spencer Ware. Two of those 3 run 4.6.

I think it's more about vision, decisiveness, and initial burst going N/S when they hit that edge or that crease.

I think Woody Marks from USC is an excellent fit for this offense but he doesn't get brought up much because he's a mid 4.5's guy.

staylor26 03-22-2025 11:28 AM

Henderson in pass pro:

https://x.com/noflagsfilm/status/190...356911253?s=46

SAGA45 03-22-2025 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18006931)

I love how he sets like an OL. That's just f**kin awesome! That's an every-down back IMO.

staylor26 03-22-2025 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 18006940)
I love how he sets like an OL. That's just f**kin awesome! That's an every-down back IMO.

Honestly, wouldn't be shocked if he's the pick at 31, because he can play right away.

SAGA45 03-22-2025 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 18006947)
Honestly, wouldn't be shocked if he's the pick at 31, because he can play right away.

The collisions between him and a blitzing Derwin James would be must-see TV 2x a year.

kccrow 03-22-2025 02:00 PM

Ever since I did my last round 1 mock I kept thinking about Henderson. When Jahmyr Gibbs came out, he had virtually the same grade as Henderson. He was considered a very late 1 but probably a high day 2 pick all through the process. Then right at the end, we saw this meteoric rise up the charts and he went 12th overall.

And... I can't help but feel the exact same way right now about Henderson. Unless Loveland makes it to 20, I don't think Henderson is making it past Denver. And that will undoubtedly suck a lot of ass. And then new guy goes and does exactly this in the CP Mock and I almost shit myself.

Hell, if Jeanty goes before the Bears at 10, I wouldn't necessarily rule out Johnson slamming the table to get this guy to be his new Gibbs.

I think he's going way earlier than current projections.

I also feel the same way about one of his teammates in J.T. Tuimoloau. I think he's going in round 1 and ahead of Nic Scourton, but that's another talk.

SAGA45 03-22-2025 06:22 PM

More pass pro from Hampton, Ollie Gordon and Kyle "My Guy" Monangai...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Kyle Monangai pass pro gets me fired up <a href="https://t.co/OO2OjWBIJO">pic.twitter.com/OO2OjWBIJO</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1899801263295922324?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Omarion Hampton pass pro 💪 <a href="https://t.co/lSfvn9hzAE">pic.twitter.com/lSfvn9hzAE</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1902814142903255120?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 20, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ollie Gordon pass pro gets me fired up <a href="https://t.co/mc2favAenc">pic.twitter.com/mc2favAenc</a></p>&mdash; James Foster (@NoFlagsFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/NoFlagsFilm/status/1900219435505381423?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 13, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 03-22-2025 06:24 PM

Kid is really good. I am a big fan

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Every Kansas State RB DJ Giddens breakaway run 15+yard from 2024 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft2025?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft2025</a> <a href="https://t.co/D7FAmXl6Vx">pic.twitter.com/D7FAmXl6Vx</a></p>&mdash; Ray G (@RayGQue) <a href="https://twitter.com/RayGQue/status/1898030171665424720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 7, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Couch-Potato 03-22-2025 07:15 PM

There’s so many good RB’s in this class I wish we could take two!

Couch-Potato 03-22-2025 07:27 PM

If Jeanty had a freak accident before the draft, say something pretty serious like an ACL tear, and he fell to us… would you take him knowing he wouldn’t play at all next season and without certainty he’d be the same?

smithandrew051 03-22-2025 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18007401)
If Jeanty had a freak accident before the draft, say something pretty serious like an ACL tear, and he fell to us… would you take him knowing he wouldn’t play at all next season and without certainty he’d be the same?

Pass in that scenario. Need a guy who can help immediately.

Semichief 03-23-2025 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 18007401)
If Jeanty had a freak accident before the draft, say something pretty serious like an ACL tear, and he fell to us… would you take him knowing he wouldn’t play at all next season and without certainty he’d be the same?

It’s a great thought experiment. It basically nets out to: would we trade the 31st pick in this year’s draft for the 10th pick in next year’s draft AND it has to be a RB? The answer to that, I think is yes. Especially since we have the extra 3rd rounder this year and no obvious holes in the starting lineup.

smithandrew051 03-23-2025 08:17 AM

The only position I think the Chiefs can consider a “redshirt” player at 31 is LT.


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