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Saccopoo 10-13-2012 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9006569)
Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
This is going to be a great year to have a draft pick in the teens-to-20's. Lack of top end talent means great value in middle of 1st RD

Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
I went back and watched the WVU-Texas game this morning. Texas lost that game with their lack of offense at the end of the 4th

Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
Regarding Geno Smith. I counted two, maybe three real NFL throws in the game. The run game won the Mountaineers the game, not Smith's arm

Shawn Zobel ‏@ShawnZobel_DHQ
Personally, right now I would still find it hard to take Geno Smith in the Top 50. Lot more work left to do, only in early stages of process
http://images.betterworldbooks.com/1...1592287871.jpg

AussieChiefsFan 10-13-2012 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9007307)
I think the things this guy says could easily take up most of that list.

Saccopoo 10-13-2012 08:57 AM
On a realistic and positive note, the draftniks over at CBS got it right.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock

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AussieChiefsFan 10-13-2012 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 9007314)
On a realistic and positive note, the draftniks over at CBS got it right.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/mock

[IMG]http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/t...n-n-stimpy.gif[/IMG]
:thumb:

Simplicity 10-13-2012 09:07 AM
There is no way we are not going to take him, right?

Saccopoo 10-13-2012 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 9007333)
There is no way we are not going to take him, right?
The 30th anniversary of the last time the Chiefs took a Quarterback in the first round.

Matt Cassel is one of the three worst starting quarterbacks in the NFL.

Brady Quinn and Stanzi aren't the answer.

The fan base is demanding a QB.

Ownership knows the quickest fix to morale (and success) in the NFL is a franchise quarterback.

The Chiefs are 1-4 and haven't had the lead in any of those five games.

The stars are rapidly aligning my friend.

Geno Smith will be a Chief.

Rausch 10-13-2012 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Simplicity (Post 9007333)
There is no way we are not going to take him, right?
If Pioli is allowed this draft there is absolutely no chance in hell we draft him...

PRIEST 10-13-2012 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9007277)
i will shit on his face
This :thumb:

RealSNR 10-13-2012 01:46 PM
3rd and 9, a defender breathing in his asshole, Geno takes a simple step forward, delivers a perfect strike 15 yards downfield. First down.

I mean, with any other QB that'd be highly impressive. For Geno, it's probably the 48th most impressive pass he's thrown just this year.

What a QB.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 01:51 PM
Damn. Geno should've ran right there. He's such a passer first, his instinct is to throw the ball. But he has to realize his legs are almost as much of a weapon as his arm.

RealSNR 10-13-2012 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9007933)
Damn. Geno should've ran right there. He's such a passer first, his instinct is to throw the ball. But he has to realize his legs are almost as much of a weapon as his arm.
Especially with a lane like that. Take your biggest immobile pocket passing NFL QB. Tom Brady. He would have run for that first down.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2012 02:03 PM
****ing laser.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2012 02:13 PM
:hail:

http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1550189/genooo2.gif

SAUTO 10-13-2012 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9008023)
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Posted via Mobile Device

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 02:31 PM
Something he has to work on. He tends to overthrow the deep routes, trying to lead the receiver, but he just puts too much on it sometimes.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 02:34 PM
But his ball placement on intermediate and short throws is unreal.

Hammock Parties 10-13-2012 02:43 PM
Geno down 21-7.

Bout to throw for 600 yards.

DaKCMan AP 10-13-2012 02:45 PM
Sold on Geno. Want him in KC.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 02:45 PM
As bad as WVU defense is, Geno won't let this stand. He's about to come back.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 02:46 PM
Oh yeah. And if we take Geno. We need to go after Tavon Austin in the mid-rounds. Kick/Punt return fixed. Slot receiver, fixed.

DaKCMan AP 10-13-2012 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008178)
Oh yeah. And if we take Geno. We need to go after Tavon Austin in the mid-rounds. Kick/Punt return fixed. Slot receiver, fixed.
I like Austin, but that position isn't broken if they'd actually let Breaston play in the slot (or if Wiley's ever healthy) and if they'd let Arenas return kicks/punts (or Wiley if he's ever healthy).

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9008192)
I like Austin, but that position isn't broken if they'd actually let Breaston play in the slot (or if Wiley's ever healthy) and if they'd let Arenas return kicks/punts (or Wiley if he's ever healthy).
Arenas doesn't offer enough as a returner. I think he's just too slow. We get excited over a 30 yard return. Breaston could be a good slot, but the quick twitch abilities of Austin is rare. I don't care for Devon Wylie. He's likely another Pioli missed pick. I like Austin because I believe you can never draft too many playmakers. Guys who can stretch the field and can score at any moment.

DaKCMan AP 10-13-2012 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008236)
Arenas doesn't offer enough as a returner. I think he's just too slow. We get excited over a 30 yard return. Breaston could be a good slot, but the quick twitch abilities of Austin is rare. I don't care for Devon Wylie. He's likely another Pioli missed pick. I like Austin because I believe you can never draft too many playmakers. Guys who can stretch the field and can score at any moment.
Did you ever watch Arenas return kicks while at Bama? Kid is an electric returner. Our kr/pr blocking has been garbage for years. Again, I like Austin, but I don't think he lasts until the mid-rounds.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 9008241)
Did you ever watch Arenas return kicks while at Bama? Kid is an electric returner. Our kr/pr blocking has been garbage for years. Again, I like Austin, but I don't think he lasts until the mid-rounds.
I did watch him, a lot. He's a patient returner that allows, and keeps blockers in front of him throughout the return. Nothing wrong with that, but he lacks the speed to break away if blockers aren't there. He's a creative runner, but he doesn't have any special abilities that make him a sought after returner. He'll never be a great NFL returner. The speed of the game is just fast enough to keep him from being what he was at Bama.

-King- 10-13-2012 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008236)
Arenas doesn't offer enough as a returner. I think he's just too slow. We get excited over a 30 yard return. Breaston could be a good slot, but the quick twitch abilities of Austin is rare. I don't care for Devon Wylie. He's likely another Pioli missed pick. I like Austin because I believe you can never draft too many playmakers. Guys who can stretch the field and can score at any moment.
Thats because a 30 yard return is good. We're 6th in kick returns and 5th in punt returns. I'll take that.

DBOSHO 10-13-2012 03:12 PM
Holy shit that dude is fast

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9008260)
Thats because a 30 yard return is good. We're 6th in kick returns and 5th in punt returns. I'll take that.
You're talking about total return yards.

You do realize, the more points you give up, the more opportunities you will have to return kicks.

Our kick return average is 24th. So stop being narrow minded.

KcMizzou 10-13-2012 03:13 PM
35-7 Texas Tech before the half. :eek:

We'll see what Smith can do in the 2nd.

DBOSHO 10-13-2012 03:13 PM
Im betting we draft sadale foster in the 2nd round next year

KC Hawks 10-13-2012 03:15 PM
Don't worry, Geno. Your team's defense will be a lot better next year with the Chiefs.

RealSNR 10-13-2012 03:16 PM
When did West Virginia hire Matt Cassel as their defensive coordinator?

-King- 10-13-2012 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008273)
You're talking about total return yards.

You do realize, the more points you give up, the more opportunities you will have to return kicks.

Our kick return average is 24th. So stop being narrow minded.
Sorry sir.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 9008298)
Sorry sir.
lol. I'm just saying there's no reason to keep Arenas around when he's offered little in the return game throughout his career. I actually liked him as a nickel a lot until this year. This year he's taken a step back for some reason.

RunKC 10-13-2012 03:21 PM
Some of you Geno fans need to quit crowning him.

This is the first good defense he's played this year and he's not looking very good.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008310)
Some of you Geno fans need to quit crowning him.

This is the first good defense he's played this year and he's not looking very good.
Yeah cause he didn't play against Okafor and Jackson Jeffcoat last week.

RunKC 10-13-2012 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008319)
Yeah cause he didn't play against Okafor and Jackson Jeffcoat last week.
You mean the defense that's given up over 100 points the last 2 weeks? That good defense? :LOL:

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008330)
You mean the defense that's given up over 100 points the last 2 weeks? That good defense? :LOL:
Geno is a talented athlete. He's going to be fine in the NFL. He's rattled right now in this game. But once he's on a NFL roster it's about developing and creating a system around him.

RunKC 10-13-2012 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008344)
Geno is a talented athlete. He's going to be fine in the NFL. He's rattled right now in this game. But once he's on a NFL roster it's about developing and creating a system around him.
I think he'll be good too, but his hype is out of control. I don't think he's in the same class as Luck or RGIII. He's gonna be good, but it troubles me seeing him own bad defenses and not look very good against a good defense.

I doubt we'll get him though. We'll probably win 3 more games and be out of the running...like we always do. :banghead:

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008356)
I think he'll be good too, but his hype is out of control. I don't think he's in the same class as Luck or RGIII. He's gonna be good, but it troubles me seeing him own bad defenses and not look very good against a good defense.

I doubt we'll get him though. We'll probably win 3 more games and be out of the running...like we always do. :banghead:
He's not in that same class as Luck or RG3. But it doesn't mean we can't develop him. He's still a rare athlete. Just need somebody to mold him.

The hype is so great because we want a QB. And although Barkley is also a top pick, we all know the history of USC QB's. Plus his name is Matt. Bad juju.

RunKC 10-13-2012 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 9008365)
He's not in that same class as Luck or RG3. But it doesn't mean we can't develop him. He's still a rare athlete. Just need somebody to mold him.

The hype is so great because we want a QB. And although Barkley is also a top pick, we all know the history of USC QB's. Plus his name is Matt. Bad juju.
Actually, I think Barkley will be a quality NFL QB. Just because he went to USC doesn't mean he'll be bad. You can't really compare him to Cassel, Leinart or Sanchez.
I think he's far more comparable to Palmer than those 3.

007 10-13-2012 03:52 PM
damn this game is boring.

KCrockaholic 10-13-2012 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008412)
Actually, I think Barkley will be a quality NFL QB. Just because he went to USC doesn't mean he'll be bad. You can't really compare him to Cassel, Leinart or Sanchez.
I think he's far more comparable to Palmer than those 3.
Palmer is the best USC QB to go pro of all time. That's not saying much. Barkley would have to be better than Palmer to be worthy of the top pick.

Until I see otherwise. I don't trust USC QB's.

TribalElder 10-13-2012 04:00 PM
Geno what the hell is going on today

SAUTO 10-13-2012 04:02 PM
Let down Game here
Posted via Mobile Device

SPchief 10-13-2012 04:07 PM
You think he heard that Chiefs fans wanted him?

Molitoth 10-13-2012 04:15 PM
The WV defense is absolute garbage. That said, Geno is not having a good game.

007 10-13-2012 04:20 PM
This sucks for KSU.

TribalElder 10-13-2012 04:22 PM
KSU might molly wop WV

RunKC 10-13-2012 04:26 PM
Of course there are no great QB prospects in the draft in the years that we suck. This franchise is cursed.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-13-2012 04:48 PM
Nothing special about Geno today.

Mr_Tomahawk 10-13-2012 04:50 PM
Damn...TT QB throws for 500 yards and 6 TDs?

Geno Who?

the Talking Can 10-13-2012 04:51 PM
oh no they lost...geno sucks....guess we have draft OL

RealSNR 10-13-2012 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008510)
Of course there are no great QB prospects in the draft in the years that we suck. This franchise is cursed.
Geno is a great QB prospect you flaming reeruned pile of hippo excrement

RunKC 10-13-2012 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9008585)
Geno is a great QB prospect you flaming reeruned pile of hippo excrement
Yeah against high school defenses. He played a big boy defense today and got his shit pushed in.

the Talking Can 10-13-2012 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008673)
Yeah against high school defenses. He played a big boy defense today and got his shit pushed in.
jesus...do you eat paint chips?

Brock 10-13-2012 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008510)
Of course there are no great QB prospects in the draft in the years that we suck. This franchise is cursed.
Here come the excuses for not drafting a first round QB already.

RealSNR 10-13-2012 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008673)
Yeah against high school defenses. He played a big boy defense today and got his shit pushed in.
Name me a #1 overall pick QB who DIDN'T have a bad game in their final college season.

...

I'm waiting.

And don't say, "Andrew Luck" because you would be wrong.

Molitoth 10-13-2012 06:07 PM
I'm actually glad that Geno had a bad game. Now we can see how he handles bouncing back from it.

Face it, not even the best QB's of all time have gone careers without bad games.

People thinking Geno is terrible because he had a single bad game just shows how stupid they are.

htismaqe 10-13-2012 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008412)
Actually, I think Barkley will be a quality NFL QB. Just because he went to USC doesn't mean he'll be bad. You can't really compare him to Cassel, Leinart or Sanchez.
I think he's far more comparable to Palmer than those 3.
Wow Carson Palmer. Way to set the bar high there.

007 10-13-2012 06:15 PM
typical fanbase. have a bad game and you suck.

WV 10-13-2012 06:27 PM
Even Geno's "bad" game is faaaaar better than anything we've had for quite some time. Let the nay sayers off the bus, they weren't in it fully anyway.

the Talking Can 10-13-2012 06:39 PM
a bad game for geno

29 completions, 250 yards, 1 td, 0 ints

WV is an unranked nobody without him...

DaKCMan AP 10-13-2012 06:41 PM
Geno didn't play terrible. He didn't play great and had some inaccurate passes, but his WRs dropped a bunch that hit them in the hands.

the Talking Can 10-13-2012 06:43 PM
he was off a bit, his wr's were off, and they didn't convert their 4th downs..

and unlike most teams they have to go for it on 4th every time because they have a Chiefs defense..

a bad game is tony romo throwing 5 picks

RunKC 10-13-2012 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 9008785)
Wow Carson Palmer. Way to set the bar high there.
He's going to have more success than Palmer. Barkely has been impressive every year at USC. Palmer sucked up until his last year.

RunKC 10-13-2012 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9008758)
Name me a #1 overall pick QB who DIDN'T have a bad game in their final college season.

...

I'm waiting.

And don't say, "Andrew Luck" because you would be wrong.
Yes, but how many quality teams has he beaten?

And don't even bother bringing up Texas. The Longhorns are an abortion this year.

Throwing 8 TD's on Baylors 119th defense sure looks awesome though LMAO

the Talking Can 10-13-2012 06:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008859)
Yes, but how many quality teams has he beaten?

And don't even bother bringing up Texas. The Longhorns are an abortion this year.

Throwing 8 TD's on Baylors 119th defense sure looks awesome though LMAO
so everyone throws 8 tds against baylor?

keep moving the bar...

obviously his success is a sign of his failure...derp

RunKC 10-13-2012 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 9008866)
so everyone throws 8 tds against baylor?

keep moving the bar...

obviously his success is a sign of his failure...derp
The replacement kid that TCU threw in at QB has 3 TD's on Baylor and it's his first start!

So much for that LMAO

the Talking Can 10-13-2012 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008890)
The replacement kid that TCU threw in at QB has 3 TD's on Baylor and it's his first start!

So much for that LMAO
so everyone throws 8 tds against baylor?

RealSNR 10-13-2012 07:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008859)
Yes, but how many quality teams has he beaten?

And don't even bother bringing up Texas. The Longhorns are an abortion this year.

Throwing 8 TD's on Baylors 119th defense sure looks awesome though LMAO
Yep. It's a shame Geno Smith just started playing football this year. Because he has no experience starting at QB the two entire seasons prior to this one...

...


Right?

You drink your own pee

DeezNutz 10-13-2012 07:07 PM
Weren't people saying that Texas was the "first real defense that Smith would face"? Now, the goalposts have changed.

Yep, sounds like the usual talk about potential draft options for the Chiefs.

BossChief 10-13-2012 07:10 PM
Dont worry, these detractors will show up to praise the shit out of Smith if we get to 4 or 5 wins.

Like clockwork.

RealSNR 10-13-2012 07:12 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9008906)
Weren't people saying that Texas was the "first real defense that Smith would face"? Now, the goalposts have changed.

Yep, sounds like the usual talk about potential draft options for the Chiefs.
I think they were talking about the Red Raiders. The "Tech" part was implied.

Because when I think tough defenses, I think Texas Tech

DeezNutz 10-13-2012 07:15 PM
I'd take Smith at #7 overall but not at #5.

RunKC 10-13-2012 07:22 PM
I like Geno Smith, but I don't think he's shown much to think he could be a franchise NFL QB.

DeezNutz 10-13-2012 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008943)
I like Geno Smith, but I don't think he's shown much to think he could be a franchise NFL QB.
What else does he need to show?

tk13 10-13-2012 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9008906)
Weren't people saying that Texas was the "first real defense that Smith would face"? Now, the goalposts have changed.

Yep, sounds like the usual talk about potential draft options for the Chiefs.
What happened today shouldn't knock Smith down at all... but that said, watching Texas today, there's no way you can call them a semi-legitimate defense. They are terrible.

BossChief 10-13-2012 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008943)
I like Geno Smith, but I don't think he's shown much to think he could be a franchise NFL QB.
then you should stab your own eyes out with a butter knife.

DeezNutz 10-13-2012 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 9008951)
What happened today shouldn't knock Smith down at all... but that said, watching Texas today, there's no way you can call them a semi-legitimate defense. They are terrible.
They were embarrassing this afternoon. My bigger point in all of this is the changing basis for evaluation. Given the relative low-risk of drafting a QB, this hyper-scrutiny on a single position is pretty laughable to me.

MIAdragon 10-13-2012 07:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 9008943)
I like Geno Smith, but I don't think he's shown much to think he could be a franchise NFL QB.
http://i52.tinypic.com/1pjj9v.jpg


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