For certain people.....it's always been Quinn. BossChief and I have been going back and forth all offseason about who should start.

Seeing his over all body of work says alot more also...

Say we eventually draft a 1st round qb, how much time does he get from you guys?

3 years. Starts immediately. None of this grooming bullshit you hear people throw around..

IF he isnt want you want in year 3, you draft another and start over.

So, by that measure, Quinn never got a fair shot?

Typically at least 3, usually 4 for a top 10 pick. One picked in the back half of the 1st round there are no such garuntees. Teams usually don’t have as much money wrapped up in those guys

I would agree that Quinn never got a fair shot in Cleveland. Plus, look what he had to work with there. The bottom line is that we have seen what Cassel can do and its time to move on.

We have a solid OL, RB, and WR's. It is time to see how successful a QB can be throwing down the field with these offensive weapons. It really doesn't matter whether its Quinn or Stanzi but one of them needs to be given a shot with this team. I would be comfortable with either one.

Some would say that. Those that watch the fighting Irish on Saturdays. Others would say he had a shot on several different teams and never even impressed enough to warrant Sunday playing time.

Quinn should have had an edge over Cassel in camp. He had more familiarity with Daboll. He has better mechanics and arm strength. He should have been blowing Cassel away every day in camp in drills. Instead, all we heard was inconsistency.

Seriously? Quinn should have the edge in camp?

Yeah.....it's easy to show that edge in camp when you're consistently getting to throw to targets like Newsome and Maneri.

Go back and look at the preseason games. Who completed more of their passes to the receivers? Quinn. All Cassel did was dump off to RBs or 6 yard passes to McCluster.

i rewatched it 5/6 times when you posted this with slomo on dvr.

ball was place right were that in-route takes the receiver

Receiver cuts inside and then curls outside around the defender. Hoping the momentum of the defender takes him too far inside.


All Bowe had to do was keep his feet moving instead of leaning for it.

I can't stand Notre Dame (and don't particularly like Quinn) and I don't think he got a fair shot in Cleveland because, you know, I actually paid attention to what was going on in Cleveland from '07-'09.

Cassel is coming off season ending hand surgery and was completely unfamiliar with Daboll. Quinn had an edge in the sytem and health.

Quinn did complete more passes to WRs. Part of that was by design. Don't tell me for one second the game design of the first two games wasn't to utlize the TEs and to see how Dex did in the slot, and the fourth game was to run the ball. Yes, Cassel played poorly in game 3. Still, all camp reports were that Cassel was by far the best QB in camp. It sucks, but the level of talent at QB just isn't there.

As the QB position of this club is a joke, well...

The INT was Newsome. I thought you were talking about the slant.

Shirley you don't believe this?