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DRM08 02-28-2023 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DJay23 (Post 16830664)
Or slide/get out of bounds. He takes a lot of unnecessary punishment for a gain of a few yards.

Allen definitely needs to get smarter about that stuff. Mahomes would try to run over people in college. I was glad to see him show a smarter approach when he got into the NFL. Great coaching from Andy’s staff.

Basileus777 02-28-2023 01:03 PM

Allen's running ability is a huge part of what makes him a great offensive weapon, he's never going to willingly blunt that advantage.

MahomesMagic 02-28-2023 01:13 PM

Allen is a beast, elite QB.

The issue is that he is in a bucket with a couple guys like that including Burrow while Mahomes is the greatest QB talent ever.

notorious 02-28-2023 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 16830736)
Allen's running ability is a huge part of what makes him a great offensive weapon, he's never going to willingly blunt that advantage.

Injury=Unwillingly blunt

It's kind of happened already.

Coochie liquor 02-28-2023 02:16 PM

Josh just doesn’t have the gigabytes that Mahomes, or Burrow have. He doesn’t seem to be able to compute what’s happening on the field as fast as needed sometimes. That’s when he takes off running.

tredadda 02-28-2023 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 16830425)
Doing a max restructure on Josh Allen makes sense. Beyond that, there are restructures they CAN do ... but do they WANT to ...

restructure
Diggs (30) to free up $6M?
Miller (34) to free up 12M?
Tre'Davious (I'm only 28 but looked washed after my ACL recovery) White to free up $8M?
Matt Milano (29) to free up $9M?

Do all of those and you're at $34M, which is enough to get the rookie class signed and make some smaller moves. It might not be enough to keep Edmunds.

They just don't have a lot of flexibility (and things could get PAINFUL down the road if they go this route).

They might be willing to risk it though. Miller and Diggs are not getting any younger. Better to swing for the fences now while your window is somewhat open and deal with the aftermath later, especially if your GM doesn't draft well. Look at how awful the Rams were this year. They went big and it paid off. Guarantee they would rather have a ring than be solid this year.

tredadda 02-28-2023 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mosbonian (Post 16830500)
Except Josh Allen is going to run himself into an early retirement with his "I can run over people " mentality. And one of these days when he tries to hurdle over a defensive guy who stands up in the middle of his leap he will get.hurt.

Not sure I would call him elite either. Until he has stats like Mahomes, he is just a distant second.

He is elite. He's not Mahomes who is ultra-elite, but he is still a Top 3-5 QB in the league.

htismaqe 02-28-2023 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 16830580)
No it doesn't. Elite literally means 'a select group that is superior in terms of ability or qualities to the rest of a group'.

The term to describe what you stated above is transcendent.

This describes it best.

Allen and Burrow are elite.

Mahomes is beyond elite. "Transcendent" is the perfect word.

You can't compare other QB's the Mahomes at this point. In any other scenario, guys like Allen and Burrow would be winning championships and would absolutely be considered elite. But they have to go through Mahomes, who is literally the best athlete in the world right now.

tredadda 02-28-2023 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 16830877)
This describes it best.

Allen and Burrow are elite.

Mahomes is beyond elite. "Transcendent" is the perfect word.

You can't compare other QB's the Mahomes at this point. In any other scenario, guys like Allen and Burrow would be winning championships and would absolutely be considered elite. But they have to go through Mahomes, who is literally the best athlete in the world right now.

I honestly believe that had Buffalo gone to SB 56 instead of Cincinnati they would have skull dragged the Rams. They were very good that postseason. Only problem was they had to face KC who was better and has their number when it matters most.

Sassy Squatch 02-28-2023 02:33 PM

The Rams also have Sean McVay. The Bills have no one even close on their staff. Ken Dorsey got exposed pretty badly as a mid tier playcaller, especially late into the season/playoffs.


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