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dirk digler 09-04-2009 11:09 PM

In those 2 videos I saw 1 tackle where he actually wrapped someone up. It just looks like he goes for the kill shot every time and uses his shoulders.

That is not going to work in the NFL but he definitely is a big guy.

I see where people compare Mays to someone like Adrian Wilson while Berry is often compared to Ed Reed. I would rather have Reed than Wilson. Just my .02 cents

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6035784)
In those 2 videos I saw 1 tackle where he actually wrapped someone up. It just looks like he goes for the kill shot every time and uses his shoulders.

That is not going to work in the NFL but he definitely is a big guy.

I see where people compare Mays to someone like Adrian Wilson while Berry is often compared to Ed Reed. I would rather have Reed than Wilson. Just my .02 cents

He's faster than Wilson though...

And this will be his first year playing SS with always be a FS before, I think Mays is somewhat comparable to Brian Dawkins.

I don't think those videos show him wrapping up because well it's a highlight video...when he goes for hits he doesn't miss, this from me a guy who watches all the games.

doomy3 09-04-2009 11:11 PM

Has a safety ever been drafted in the top 3?

dirk digler 09-04-2009 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035774)
And anyway Mays is going to be put in a role to answer the questions about him being a playmaker.

So the questions can be answered on the field, he's already shown he's a huge hitter and a great cover 1 safety.

Yeah I read where he asked Carrol to change his role up to compete with Berry so I will be anxious to see how well he does.

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6035788)
Has a safety ever been drafted in the top 3?

That's a good question...I should go look it up..

Sean Taylor went I believe 5th.

Just Passin' By 09-04-2009 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6035779)
Has a safety ever been drafted top 3?

Eric Turner went #2 overall in 1991.

doomy3 09-04-2009 11:14 PM

So, how is this different than this year, when all we heard about was positional value? Is all that out the window and now we are back to BPA like 2 years ago?

It's hard to keep up with this, I guess it just depends on who you want us to draft that year.

Since there's not a QB you want next year, we should just throw positional value out the window and draft a safety?

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 6035792)
Eric Turner went #2 overall in 1991.

You beat me I was just about to post..

The highest pick used on a safety since the 1970 merger was No. 2 overall in 1991, when Cleveland took Eric Turner.

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6035796)
So, how is this different than this year, when all we heard about was positional value? Is all that out the window and now we are back to BPA like 2 years ago?

It's hard to keep up with this, I guess it just depends on who you want us to draft that year.

Since there's not a QB you want next year, we should just throw positional value out the window and draft a safety?

Position value is a factor mixed with talent ability etc etc etc.

I think you make exceptions for freak players. 99 times out of 100 I'd tell you not to take a safety with a top 10 pick but there are 2 guys that warrant it this year.

There are a few exceptions every year just so happens this year they are both at the same position.

doomy3 09-04-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6035802)
Position value is a factor mixed with talent ability etc etc etc.

I think you make exceptions for freak players. 99 times out of 100 I'd tell you not to take a safety with a top 10 pick but there are 2 guys that warrant it this year.

There are a few exceptions every year just so happens this year they are both at the same position.


Who were the exceptions this year?

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:19 PM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=090...s&confirm=true

There's an article written on the safeties of this year, the seniors anyway. I also really like Kam Chancellor for what that's worth.

1. Taylor Mays

College: USC
Height/Weight: 6-foot-3, 236

Mays, a four-year player, has started 38 games at free safety. His dad, Stafford, was drafted in the ninth round in 1980 and played nine years and 119 games in the NFL. Taylor is a two-time sprint champion (100 and 200 meters) in the state of Washington. This is a driver player, who has speed, range and athletic ability. He reminds you of former Giants linebacker Brad Van Pelt, who played safety at Michigan State. He lines up 15 yards deep on most plays. Mays will be a first-round pick and play a long time.

dirk digler 09-04-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6035796)
So, how is this different than this year, when all we heard about was positional value? Is all that out the window and now we are back to BPA like 2 years ago?

It's hard to keep up with this, I guess it just depends on who you want us to draft that year.

Since there's not a QB you want next year, we should just throw positional value out the window and draft a safety?

Outside of our first pick we should pick OL just like we should have this year

I would take Berry high because I think he is a special player. I don't know enough about who else is coming out to say who would be worthy.

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by doomy3 (Post 6035805)
Who were the exceptions this year?

Aaron Curry ended up being one, not that I think he should have been but that's personal opinion.

There's also a decent chance Malcolm Jenkins will end up as a FS within a few years which would make him one too.

Mecca 09-04-2009 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6035807)
Outside of our first pick we should pick OL just like we should have this year

I would take Berry high because I think he is a special player. I don't know enough about who else is coming out to say who would be worthy.

I can give you a bunch of prospects how many do you want me to roll through? I can do some kind of list of who's likely going in the top 10 whatever.

BWillie 09-04-2009 11:23 PM

With the #1 pick of the NFL Draft. The Kansas City Chiefs select - Darrell Stuckey. LOL


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