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I have to say the difference in the debate about Cassel in this thread compared to week 4 of the season for example, is encouraging.

Yep. Couldn't agree more.

Those wouldn't be "real" numbers. They are system numbers so they don't count. It only counts if he gets those numbers against winning teams with franchise QBs, top 5 defenses, and on the road with a struggling running game. Unless he can do that successfully for the next 3 years he's a fraud and you are just a fool.

LMAO

At this point I'm just gonna start a thread titled "Matt Cassel Debate, Week Of X" after every game, because these threads are comedy gold, from both sides of the argument.

Wait...........

On the road

Against a top 5 defense

With no ground game

17 points down

With a Franchise QB on the other team that has never lost when up by 17 at home

And he needs to do this 6-8 times each season for 3 years, or he's just a game manager.

And yes, that is EXACTLY how absurd some of you stupid ****ers have gotten. Die in a god damned grease fire bundle of stickss.

Since Cassel has been here, I have stayed about the same. I felt like he was a mid level QB. Probably 10-15th in the league.... basically, Mark Sanchez.

I have admitted that I underestimated Sanchez. He has impressed me in many, many ways.

I seem to have underestimated Cassel as well. Time will tell if he is just having a good season, or if this is permanent. I mean, Anderson had a pro bowl year in Cleveland. We know how this stuff can go at times.

I am waiting for the other shoe to drop. I still struggle to believe he is AS good as he has played. But, at some point, we are just going to have to accept that he is a 'good' qb, even if he is never a 'great' qb.

Well during his career overall he's 3 wins and 4 losses in the playoffs with a 79 QB rating........But I can see why you would want to cherry pick the last three years....and you bitch about the people cherry picking Cassels stats while you love on one of our division rivals QBs!

http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0_playoffs.htm

I agree with this, but this is not the way people will evaluate. People will evaluate based on their pre-formed biases. The homers will say he had a great game and everyone else failed for him, and the haters will say he made 1 or 2 mistakes he shouldn't have made. I wish what you were saying was true. There is always a way to skew statistics to make your case.

We can't expect Cassel to walk into San Diego and light it up. But I think that's what his critics are going to ask and expect. Brady, Manning, and Orton all had fits with this defense. And our defense is probably going to give up a lot of points because their offense is that good.

I think that's a tough standard to say that the only way he proves his worth is to single-handedly beat the hottest team in football on the road. I just want him to play well. I don't want to see him play like he did in Indianapolis, not even Cleveland or Buffalo where we somehow squeezed out wins. If he puts up an Oakland, Arizona, or Seattle like performance even in a loss, I think that's a major sign of positive progress.

You seriously won't acknowledge that Rivers is (a lot) better than Cassel?

He's not the first to brag on Cassel. I don't remember the games, but in one, the announcers were comparing his throwing motion to Elway,(He wasn't playing good then, I about spit my drink threw my nose when they said it) and then, just a couple of weeks ago, they were comparing his footwork to Drew Brees. I think Gannon was one of the announcers.

the thing with Brady Manning and Orton is they dont have good run games. At least nothing close to what the Chiefs have. Indy and Denver i know for a fact have crappy running games. Not to sure on N.E, but since Danny Woodhead is their running back, i am sure its pretty much all Tom. We have a running back that is doing something that no one since what Jim Brown is doing with a 6.2 ypc.

We have another demension them teams dont have right now imo. Are they going to stack the box are are they going to double on Bowe? hmmm..

Yes I will acknowledge that Rivers is a better QB. But I will also acknowledge that when Rivers made it to the conference championship the Chargers had a hell of an O-line and surrounded him with plenty of weapons.

I think if we continue to upgrade our talent, retain our coaching staff and Cassel continues to improve that we can win a Super Bowl with him. I trust Pioli unlike a lot of people on here that might have sipped some of Whitlocks koolaid.

cassel no hassle?
 

I have long been a supporter of Cassel and very pleased with his stats.Look at the teams and their records that is where the worry begins.I am hopeful that the Bronco games gave him more confidence and Weiss to open up the playbook.They will put 9 in a box the play should me deep post to Bowe the first time.I bleed the red and gold and I want a big can of woop ass this Sunday....also 70 points for the Chiefs and don't back off one bit!!GO CHIEFS!!

Cassel has been solid the last 4 or 5 games...ready anything more into it is probably premature. I have seen definite progress which is encouraging. He seems to actually be making some reads now instead of locking onto his prime receiver.

I too would like to see them open up the offense and see what he can do. It seems like he plays better when they let him throw more thus getting him in more rhythm. Throwing on early downs should also be something Weiss incorporates more of.