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chiefzilla1501 07-17-2011 08:21 AM

Here's another name that I'm surprised hasn't been brought up. Mathias Kiwanuka. It's a huge gamble given his neck injury, but this is the right kind of gamble to make. If he's healthy, he and Hali could be a pretty outrageous 1-2 punch.

Sweet Daddy Hate 07-17-2011 08:24 AM

We need a Pacific Islander.

aturnis 07-17-2011 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DarthCarlSatan (Post 7752954)
We need a Pacific Islander.

MANTI TE'O!

BossChief 07-17-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7752906)
I don't think the Chiefs will go after more than one of those free agents in the open market.

They'll re-sign Richardson if they can, and probably persue Matt Light.

I think Richardson continues to grow, so I'll be happy about that, but I'll be pissed when the only free agent they bring in is Light.

If they bring in Matt Light, they should just go ahead and move Albert to left guard or right tackle. My preference would be to move him to left guard and give Waters his walking papers.

Light
Albert
Hudson
Asamoah
Richardson

That could prove to be an outstanding offensive line IF Richardson can grow in the mental department and stop being clueless as to who to block in certain situations...he does that and he has a chance to be special....I don't have the confidence in him that milk does to get there though.

That line would be an upgrade at nearly every spot and would also provide a better versatility as well should somebody get hurt.

We would have no problems running up the a gaps either.

Matt Lifht is a better left tackle than Albert has been, so I guess I would be more open to his signing that some others around here would be.

BossChief 07-17-2011 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 7753003)
MANTI TE'O!

Paul Solai in a trade with Miami.

Mr. Laz 07-17-2011 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 7753063)
If they bring in Matt Light, they should just go ahead and move Albert to left guard or right tackle. My preference would be to move him to left guard and give Waters his walking papers.

Light
Albert
Hudson
Asamoah
Richardson

That could prove to be an outstanding offensive line IF Richardson can grow in the mental department and stop being clueless as to who to block in certain situations...he does that and he has a chance to be special....I don't have the confidence in him that milk does to get there though.

That line would be an upgrade at nearly every spot and would also provide a better versatility as well should somebody get hurt.

We would have no problems running up the a gaps either.

Matt Lifht is a better left tackle than Albert has been, so I guess I would be more open to his signing that some others around here would be.

ummmm ... Lilja?

milkman 07-17-2011 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7753071)
ummmm ... Lilja?

Frankly, I hate the idea of Light.

He's never been quite as good as people make him out to be, but as Boss said, he is better than Albert, still.

That line with Albert and Asamoah at the guard spots is better than a line than includes Lilja, assuming Asamoah plays as well as many believe he is capable of.

Lilja is a solid palyer, but he doesn't possess the talent of either Albert or Asamoah.

BossChief 07-17-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7753071)
ummmm ... Lilja?

I've been a big fan of Liljas and was pissed when we list him by trying to be slick about stuff, but if we sign Light and move Albert he would be our third best guard.

I don't think Albert would be a good right tackle or Lulja would be the starting LG in my scenario.

He would backup both guard positions and even though I really like him, that's a great situation to be in.

We would still need another OT though.

If Weigman doent return, sign that Zane Taylor for depth/competition at center.

Mr. Laz 07-17-2011 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7753078)
Frankly, I hate the idea of Light.

He's never been quite as good as people make him out to be, but as Boss said, he is better than Albert, still.

That line with Albert and Asamoah at the guard spots is better than a line than includes Lilja, assuming Asamoah plays as well as many believe he is capable of.

Lilja is a solid palyer, but he doesn't possess the talent of either Albert or Asamoah.

so we just cut/demote arguably our best Olineman of last year? Lilja wasn't even playing his natural position last year.

gotta be a better way imo

Light
Lilja
Hudson
Asomoah
Albert


btw How old is light ... like 64? I want help at OT as much as anyone(except sac of poop) but surely there is a better option.

notorious 07-17-2011 10:21 AM

No to Light.

milkman 07-17-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7753103)
so we just cut/demote arguably our best Olineman of last year? Lilja wasn't even playing his natural position last year.

gotta be a better way imo

Light
Lilja
Hudson
Asomoah
Albert


btw How old is light ... like 64? I want help at OT as much as anyone(except sac of poop) but surely there is a better option.

It's like a broken record.

You want someone that's stronger at the POA at the RT position than Albert.

His strength is his ability to get out in space, which plays well at the LG position when you want someone athletic to get out and pull.

chiefzilla1501 07-17-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 7753105)
No to Light.

Agreed. The move doesn't make sense.

Rather than pay a guy the world to force Albert to play out of position at RT, why not bring in an actual natural RT for cheaper? I don't think the Chiefs will have a chance at Clabo, but I'd be okay with someone like Ryan Harris who I think they can get for cheap.

Mr. Laz 07-17-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7753113)
It's like a broken record.

You want someone that's stronger at the POA at the RT position than Albert.

His strength is his ability to get out in space, which plays well at the LG position when you want someone athletic to get out and pull.

I understand but seems to me that Albert's problem at left tackle has been working in space. Albert gets beat when a guy is quick enough to work inside or outside. I would think that having Albert work against stronger guys on the right would be an easier adjustment. Btw with our stretch running game, the power side issue isn't as much of a problem imo.

Mr. Laz 07-17-2011 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 7753125)
Agreed. The move doesn't make sense.

Rather than pay a guy the world to force Albert to play out of position at RT, why not bring in an actual natural RT for cheaper? I don't think the Chiefs will have a chance at Clabo, but I'd be okay with someone like Ryan Harris who I think they can get for cheap.

because so far Albert hasn't been good enough at left tackle.

If we want an offense line that can hold their own against playoff caliber defenses then i'm not sure we can have Albert at left tackle. He's not a bust but so far i haven't seen elite left tackle either.

milkman 07-17-2011 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7753132)
I understand but seems to me that Albert's problem at left tackle has been working in space. Albert gets beat when a guy is quick enough to work inside or outside. I would think that having Albert work against stronger guys on the right would be an easier adjustment. Btw with our stretch running game, the power side issue isn't as much of a problem imo.

The reason that Albert has struggled so much at LT is the fact that he hasn't been able to adjust to the techniqe.

He damn near trips over his own feet when he comes out of his stance he's thinking so much.

The primary reason, though, that Albert was seen as a potential LT was the fact that he does have naturally quick feet and the strength of his game at the guard position was his ability to work out in space.

Return him to guard, and his natural ability should return.


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