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milkman 12-28-2011 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 8240672)
The silver lining is that Fisher swung and missed last time around.

I gotta think that if Marty were to come back to coaching, the first thing he'd do is try to get a QB. I don't see any reason to believe Fisher is any different.

These guys aren't stupid - they watch more football than we do.

I have very little doubt that Fisher recognizes the value of a franchise QB, and the fact is, he tried to find that guy twice, whether he wanted the one that was selected for him the second time around.

But the fact also remains that his coaching philosophy is a mirror image of Marty.

Play not to lose.

Will that change with a new team?

After 16+ years of that philosophy, I have strong doubts.

KC_Lee 12-28-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Dexter Manley (Post 8240685)
I would tend to think that is not the full story, because it implies VY was just a prince who did everything right on and off the field, and that wasn't the case at all...

Not going to disagree with you at all. VY was just as much of a child as Fisher was during the whole ordeal.

KC_Lee 12-28-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8240699)
I have very little doubt that Fisher recognizes the value of a franchise QB, and the fact is, he tried to find that guy twice, whether he wanted the one that was selected for him the second time around.

But the fact also remains that his coaching philosophy is a mirror image of Marty.

Play not to lose.

Will that change with a new team?

After 16+ years of that philosophy, I have strong doubts.

This, just repeat this over and over and over when thinking that the Chiefs should hire Fisher.

OzarksChiefsFan 12-28-2011 09:53 AM

Why would they hire someone with a 54% career record. Fisher is no Cowher. They have someone in Crennel who they know can get along with Pioli. Fisher would not be an upgrade over Crennel. Why anyone would want Fisher is beyond comprehension?

KC_Lee 12-28-2011 09:56 AM

How about we put this into some language that everyone on this board can relate too?

Jeff Fisher is the Matt Cassell of NFL Coaches.

Titty Meat 12-28-2011 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8240699)
I have very little doubt that Fisher recognizes the value of a franchise QB, and the fact is, he tried to find that guy twice, whether he wanted the one that was selected for him the second time around.

But the fact also remains that his coaching philosophy is a mirror image of Marty.

Play not to lose.

Will that change with a new team?

After 16+ years of that philosophy, I have strong doubts.

Was that Martys strategy in San Diego? Cam Cameron was pretty aggressive. If that dumbass holds onto the ball we aren't having this conversation.

MahiMike 12-28-2011 10:06 AM

I've been wanting Fisher since Vermeil left. Dude is nails. I like the fact he hasn't been getting soft sitting in an ESPN studio like those other clowns. I'd prefer an offensive coach (ala Vermeil) but he's a good cross between defense and offense. I think his teams are as balanced as Belichick's.

Balance is the key.

milkman 12-28-2011 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini (Post 8240776)
Was that Martys strategy in San Diego? Cam Cameron was pretty aggressive. If that dumbass holds onto the ball we aren't having this conversation.

Yes, it's possible that Fisher can change his stripes.

It only took Marty 25 years, so I guess that Fisher might get it, as well.

But I ain't hanging my hat on that hope.

FloridaMan88 12-28-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by OzarksChiefsFan (Post 8240765)
Why would they hire someone with a 54% career record. Fisher is no Cowher. They have someone in Crennel who they know can get along with Pioli. Fisher would not be an upgrade over Crennel. Why anyone would want Fisher is beyond comprehension?

Fisher has 100+ more career wins than Romeo as an NFL HC, but he isn't an upgrade over Romeo?

The Romeo lovers need to get a grip.

Titty Meat 12-28-2011 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8240828)
Yes, it's possible that Fisher can change his stripes.

It only took Marty 25 years, so I guess that Fisher might get it, as well.

But I ain't hanging my hat on that hope.

Me either. Still think he's a better choice than RAC though.

Danman 12-28-2011 10:27 AM

per Jason LaCanfora Rams to fire Spagnuolo, pusue ex-Titan Fisher

Danman 12-28-2011 10:27 AM

The Rams can have him!

FloridaMan88 12-28-2011 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8240828)
Yes, it's possible that Fisher can change his stripes.

It only took Marty 25 years, so I guess that Fisher might get it, as well.

But I ain't hanging my hat on that hope.

During Fisher's tenure as HC in Tennessee he showed he can adapt his approach, based on the strengths of his personnel.

During his initial years, the Titans were run-oriented with Eddie George as McNair developed into an NFL QB.

During the early 2000's, the Titans became more pass-oriented, especially during McNair's Co-MVP season.

When he had Vince Young (and his mediocre QB abilities) and Chris Johnson he went back to a run-oriented approach.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-28-2011 10:33 AM

Spagnuolo was a ****ing disaster. Dude won 10 games in three years. Herm laughs at that shit.

milkman 12-28-2011 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8240875)
During Fisher's tenure as HC in Tennessee he showed he can adapt his approach, based on the strengths of his personnel.

During his initial years, the Titans were run-oriented with Eddie George as McNair developed into an NFL QB.

During the early 2000's, the Titans became more pass-oriented, especially during McNair's Co-MVP season.

When he had Vince Young (and his mediocre QB abilities) and Chris Johnson he went back to a run-oriented approach.

Steve McNair's highest number of passing attempts was 492.

Steve Bono, in his first season as the Chiefs starter, attempted 520 passes.


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