Yup.


So how do you explain the Houston situation. New downtown stadium in the 4th largest city in the US. Bars all around. Why is it that their attendance is so terrible?

I did. Where else are you seeing space?

Lack of parking.

Because Saul is a straw man and in search of a brain? :shrug:

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Yes every fan base is spread out.

But they call KC a small market for reason.

Can you guess what that reason is?

Because people like to make excuses for losing.

Perhaps they should have put the stadium in the middle of a high crime, blighted area on the outskirts of the city instead. That would solve the attendance problem.

JFC, you are this ****ing stupid.

We aren't talking about winning and losing you dipshit.

We're talking about people showing up.

It's a small market because there are far fewer people in the metropolitan area than a New York, or LA, or Chicago.

It's far more important for a team like the Royals to attract the fan from 100 miles away than it is for the Yankees.

The way to do that is to provide a winning product,

Other side of the cutoff.

Thanks for convincing me that winning helps. I had been arguing that winning doesn't help, so it's good of you to set me straight.

Explain to me how putting a stadium in the middle of nowhere attracts visitors from a hundred miles away better than a stadium where the Kaufman center is would. Is it the lure of staying at the Drury Inn? The ability to visit the saddest miniature golf course and worst water park in the country in a single afternoon in Cool Crest and Coco Keys?

That's way better than coming into town, staying at the Hotel Phillips, seeing a game at a downtown stadium, going to Power and Light, seeing a concert at Sprint Center, having a meal at the Plaza, checking out an indie art gallery in the crossroads, having a picnic at Loose Park, etc. all within a $15 cab ride.

LMAO

This thread has to be the most entertaining discussion of stadium location I've read in a while.

parking for sprint center is a pain in the ass. Lets try to bring in 13-30k more people 81 times per year and really piss them off.

Whether you like it or not, the average fan is going to choose the parking and tailgating over being in bars before and after games. Getting in and out quickly without having to navigate all the downtown one way streets is a huge plus as well.

Don't forget the down economy either. People don't want to have to spend MORE money to come to a game. Maybe the downtown elites with their expense account will maybe they won't but I wouldn't bet the bank on it.

If that's true, then we should be seeing a trend of stadiums built in the middle of nowhere...nothing but an interstate to be seen.

By the way, 50,000 people go to downtown Kansas City every weekday around 8:00 AM.

a WHOLE 50,000? What percentage of them do you really think are going to go to a ball game at the end of the day.

EDIT

Every city is different. What works in one does not always work in another. More than a majority of the fanbase don't like this idea based on what I have heard and read over the past few years of it being discussed.

Um, if 50,000 people can come downtown and park for work, 30,000 can come downtown and park for a game.