Yeah, that's nice, but then we're back into the Cassel zone where the QB has to rely on his teammates to bail him out.

Why should Charles and Hillis have more responsibility in the redzone than the damn QB?

Oh, a QB that can't handle pressure.


SIGN ME UP!

Who cares? We'd win 11 games and be a top 10 offense.

Orton couldn't **** this up if he tried.

Orton would be as good as Trent Green was in Vermeil's offense.

We all know what a douche Trent looked like when the talent around him was lacking. He kinda sucked in the red zone.

You guys are arguing between ass cancer and lung cancer.

People said the same things about Trent Green before he got in the driver's seat of one of the most talented offenses in the league.

All Trent had to do was drive the machine, and let Tony and Priest do the heavy lifting.

Orton would drive the machine and let Charles, Bowe, Moeaki and Baldwin do the heavy lifting.

It really is a fool's gold argument, because Orton would lose to Tom Brady or whoever in the playoffs, but it bugs me that anyone would say Orton and Cassel are the same guy.

We would have beaten the Ravens with Orton.

Thank you.
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Just think last year we had ass lung throat AND brain cancer.

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Like I said, the babysitter is gone and Pioli doesn't trust Bowe with an overpriced contract because Crennel is not the type to continually keep giving Bowe a "performance colonoscopy check" every week.:shrug:

Orton sucks in the red zone. That's why he is only marginally better than Cassel. He'll move it up and down the field all game and settle for FGs or throw a pick.

Clay is kicking the shit out of this page.

I can't believe my eyes.

I totally agree that the chasm between Orton and Cassel is as big as the grand canyon.

Orton moved the ball and the offense immediately showed up.

Our defense rested and were able to adjustments because Orton extended drives.

The most impressive part of that, to me, was that he did it without a running game.

The absolute best option this offseason was re-signing Orton...cutting Cassel and drafting a kid in the first round with full intension of sitting him one full year before opening a competition for starter in year two.

Then, they wouldnt have straight lied to us with the whole "increased quarterback competition" talk.

Giving us Brady Quinn is a slap in the face and insult to the fanbases intelligence.

Sorry, pest.

When your redzone targets are:

Dwayne Bowe
Jon Baldwin
Tony Moeaki
Kevin Boss
Jamaal Charles/Hillis

All of those guys are big and can get open.

It's gonna be awfully hard to "suck"

Exactly. He give the D some rest and generally better field position, but not scoring is not scoring...