It's like tom brady, he was a pretty accurate passer coming out of college and he was great at coming back cause he had that fierceness about him. You put hi with NE and they started to MOLD their team to his strengths and now he's talked about being GOAT. They have gone thru players left and right and he still does what he does. They've been doing it for years cause they implemented the system and made it work, they've made tweaks here and there but it's the same system he's always been successful at. Same with manning. If you took either QB and thru them into a completely new system they would go from GOAT to above average game managers.

Phillip RIvers is another example. He did great under Norv cause norv tailored to him. You take norv away and i think phillip rivers is a HORRIBLE QB. Bad footwork, horrible mechanics, and weak arm. Unless their new OC is a genius i forsee rivers failing this year just like he has been the last couple.

Barkley can be deadly accurate, he threw so many INT's and his completion % was down a little from having a subpar line, a bad defense, and mediocre running game. Barkley had to force alot of things and put the team on his back quite abit. Like i said he single handled kept them into the oregon and ucla game. His defense was just complete shit

so much FAIL it makes sweet, cuddly, and innocent baby Jesus sweep.

Personally, I'd say the Matt Ryan comparison is spot on. Then again, I'm not a Matt Ryan fan. I think he's another high-end game manager.

No syndrome here.

I have questions about Geno too.

I am just upfront about the fact the pay they are MY questions and just because I have them doesn't mean NFL teams and scouts do.

Agree with matt ryan comparison.. BUt i like that cause i think matt ryan is a DAMN DAMN DAMN good QB and i wanted us to take him if it wasn't for the damn coin flip!!!!!

matt ryan will get his team there someday if they continue to build it right and replace the aging pieces.

Or Dan Marino the patron saint of bad mechanics who could pass the ball beautifully as if it was on a laser trace.

Ya think?

Can't say I didn't tell everybody as much.

Not to call you out here totally, but lets stop comparing these guys to the best QB's in the game.

Manning and Brady are likely 2 of the best 5 QB's to EVER play. EVER. Lets not start with that.


Barkley isn't deadly accurate. He is accurate, but he doesn't have elite accuracy. He could develop it, sure. But like it has been discussed, Barkley is pretty much topped out mechanically. Changing a little here or there isn't going to make much difference.

He just lacks the arm strength to drive the ball down the field.

You wouldn't take Matt Ryan with our top pick and be happy?

I sure as **** would.

THIS.

Sorry, I didn't like Ryan coming out and to this point, I was pretty much dead on about him. Just good enough to get you there, not good enough to go further.

I'm not comparing anyone to either, i'm just using them as the accuracy is a product of the system discussion. IMO barkley's ceiling could be that of peyton mannings, at his lowest ceiling he could be a schaub. Who will win you some games but all around is a HORRIBLE QB. But i think the others are right with a matt ryan type QB comparison. Which i would be GREAT with matt ryan

Yeah, I don't see the Matt Ryan comparison. I'd say for Barkley to be successful he'd have to be a little more Brees and have elite accuracy to make up for his lack of arm strength.

I don't think one "develops accuracy" I think that is a trait you are either born with, or not. Similar to an elite arm.

You can improve here and there, but there aren't many guys that went from completing 55% of their throws to completing over 65% ...

I bet Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers could knock a soda can off a guys head from 15 years out when they were 15 years old and there are guys in the NFLhat still can't.

but this is where we differ cause i think barkley's got a stronger arm then you do.