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Mecca 05-26-2023 01:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16960344)
Note: I have no idea what the cap situations for any of these teams. Just looking at it from a strategic perspective.


In the AFC (excepting KC), his best options look like BUF, NYJ, and JAX, JAX having the easiest road to the playoffs.


In the NFC, it looks like NYG, DET, CAR.

And maybe TB, just because we really have no idea what the Bucs are going to look like this season, and sometimes those teams that were good a short time ago and still have some of the core players/coaches, but now seem to be in flux, will surprise you and get into the postseason.
Jacksonville doesn't make sense because they are working Calvin Ridley into their offense this year with what they already had last year.

Kiimo 05-26-2023 01:18 PM
Dainty Penis is unfortunately 100% going to stick, sorry about your future bud

dlphg9 05-26-2023 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960329)
It's close but the 2018 year is probably the best...

Hill/Watkins/Kelce and Hunt
It's not close at all.

24 year old Tyreek Hill is wayyyyyyy better than 31 year old Hopkins
29 year old Travis Kelce was better than 34 year old Kelce
Watkins is better than any of the other 2023 WRs until one of them proves different
Hunt and Pacheco are probably a wash

Mecca 05-26-2023 01:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 16960344)
Note: I have no idea what the cap situations for any of these teams. Just looking at it from a strategic perspective.


In the AFC (excepting KC), his best options look like BUF, NYJ, and JAX, JAX having the easiest road to the playoffs.


In the NFC, it looks like NYG, DET, CAR.

And maybe TB, just because we really have no idea what the Bucs are going to look like this season, and sometimes those teams that were good a short time ago and still have some of the core players/coaches, but now seem to be in flux, will surprise you and get into the postseason.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baker Mayfield with an absolute DIME <br><br>He’s looking REALLY good 👀<br> <a href="https://t.co/1D4ZnyjAkQ">pic.twitter.com/1D4ZnyjAkQ</a></p>&mdash; Luke Sawhook 🪚🪝 (@lukesawhook) <a href="https://twitter.com/lukesawhook/status/1661862785054134277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what is going on in Tampa...

dlphg9 05-26-2023 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16960341)
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If people are trying to act like our weapons with Hopkins this year would be our best ever, then they are saying that he's substantially better than 24 year old Tyreek Hill. That's insanely overrating him.

Megatron96 05-26-2023 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960342)
I think the Bills would be better served spending that last bit of cap room on Dalvin Cook.


I would agree. They have absolutely no running game, BUF, and they desperately need one. BUF should be in the market for a top-10 RB more than anything else.

Wilson8 05-26-2023 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 16960321)
Would the below depth be the best weapons we've ever had?

Kelce
+
Hopkins
MVS
Toney
Moore
Rice
James
Watson
Ross
Ross
+
Pacheco
McKinnon
CEH
For sure but a few will be on other teams.

If we signed Hopkins, could we trade MVS? He has a $8,560,000 base for 2023. Is he good enough that another team would make a trade>

FlaChief58 05-26-2023 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960355)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baker Mayfield with an absolute DIME <br><br>He’s looking REALLY good 👀<br> <a href="https://t.co/1D4ZnyjAkQ">pic.twitter.com/1D4ZnyjAkQ</a></p>&mdash; Luke Sawhook 🪚🪝 (@lukesawhook) <a href="https://twitter.com/lukesawhook/status/1661862785054134277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what is going on in Tampa...
To the dingy!

Mecca 05-26-2023 01:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16960358)
If people are trying to act like our weapons with Hopkins this year would be our best ever, then they are saying that he's substantially better than 24 year old Tyreek Hill. That's insanely overrating him.
Mahomes is better now so...Hopkins is still a #1 WR, he just isn't a speed demon.

Bowser 05-26-2023 01:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 16960358)
If people are trying to act like our weapons with Hopkins this year would be our best ever, then they are saying that he's substantially better than 24 year old Tyreek Hill. That's insanely overrating him.
Yeah, agreed.

But with Mahomes just entering his prime I'd take a Hopkins/Kelce/Toney/MVS/Pacheco over those '18 and '19 squads. Not saying they're BETTER per se, but I'm saying a seasoned Mahomes is just as dangerous if not more so today with those guys as he was with the Hill and Watkins squads.

Bowser 05-26-2023 01:24 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960355)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Baker Mayfield with an absolute DIME <br><br>He’s looking REALLY good 👀<br> <a href="https://t.co/1D4ZnyjAkQ">pic.twitter.com/1D4ZnyjAkQ</a></p>&mdash; Luke Sawhook 🪚🪝 (@lukesawhook) <a href="https://twitter.com/lukesawhook/status/1661862785054134277?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 25, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

This is what is going on in Tampa...
https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.f766addf...pid=ImgRaw&r=0

Ken Bone 05-26-2023 01:24 PM
Send Clark’s plane, Bart Vatch!

Megatron96 05-26-2023 01:25 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16960348)
Jacksonville doesn't make sense because they are working Calvin Ridley into their offense this year with what they already had last year.


Calvin Ridley or Deandre Hopkins . . . I know I'd make DHop my WR1, no question.


But Doug Pederson is the HC/OC over there, and I don't see any reason he couldn't install the both of them, which would make them a lot more dangerous than they were last season.

Simply start DH, Ridley and Kirk from the slot, let Flowers work in at his own pace this season. Done deal.

Kiimo 05-26-2023 01:25 PM
I'm sitting here thinking about this tweet and it's making me pessimistic



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As exciting as Dhop is - i&#39;m going to remain cautiously optimistic that he actually lands in KC. Would be awesome to see, but shoot Odell got a 1 year 15M deal worth up to 18M.<br><br>Dhop is the better receiver at this point imo and may sign for even more somewhere.</p>&mdash; how bout those CHIEFS (@hbtCHIEFS) <a href="https://twitter.com/hbtCHIEFS/status/1662151980335104000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Mecca 05-26-2023 01:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 16960374)
I'm sitting here thinking about this tweet and it's making me pessimistic



<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As exciting as Dhop is - i&#39;m going to remain cautiously optimistic that he actually lands in KC. Would be awesome to see, but shoot Odell got a 1 year 15M deal worth up to 18M.<br><br>Dhop is the better receiver at this point imo and may sign for even more somewhere.</p>&mdash; how bout those CHIEFS (@hbtCHIEFS) <a href="https://twitter.com/hbtCHIEFS/status/1662151980335104000?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 26, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Huge difference in signing your deal before the draft and signing a deal end of May start of June.


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