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RunKC 02-22-2013 02:36 PM

Pioli has no leg to stand on. That stupid ****er was saying that there would be a QB battle, but opted to sign Brady Quinn over drafting ANY QB in last years amazing QB class.

B14ckmon 02-22-2013 02:42 PM

Why is the fat GM saying that he understands the medical reason why he isn't throwing, and then goes off on why it's frustrating to have players come to the combine unable to do physical activities?

Easy 6 02-22-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9425902)
And that dumbass loved Matt Cassel. Smh
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LMAO i'm with you, anyone who sells his soul for matt cassel has NO right to critique a quarterbacks arm.

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-22-2013 03:15 PM

Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez

#Chiefs GM John Dorsey says KC is meeting tonight with Southern Cal QB Matt Barkley at #combine @SiriusXMNFL. Wants to know him as person

the Talking Can 02-22-2013 03:18 PM

just reading about the Chiefs meeting with top QBs gives me a boinger....i've waited so long, baby

ChiefsCountry 02-22-2013 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 9426059)
Alex Marvez ‏@alexmarvez

#Chiefs GM John Dorsey says KC is meeting tonight with Southern Cal QB Matt Barkley at #combine @SiriusXMNFL. Wants to know him as person

Wood
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DeezNutz 02-22-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9425895)
Walter Cherepinsky ‏@walterfootball
Scott ***** former #Chiefs GM on #USC QB @MattBarkley: "He has a long way to go in terms of arm strength."

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9425915)
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Charley Casserly comp'd Matt Barkley to Andy Dalton. "In the 2nd-round area." Suggested Barkley will need strong supporting cast to succeed.

More evidence to feel good about drafting Barkley at 1/1. ****ing football CoMos speak and I listen.

Titty Meat 02-22-2013 03:22 PM

2 GM's who were fired dont like Barklry makes me like him even more.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-22-2013 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9425664)
I think Geno will do better than Barkley in the interviews.

this. And though i do hope the narrative changes, the mother****er isnt even throwing with his broke ass, so cool the goddamn jets.
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mcaj22 02-22-2013 03:37 PM

i cant believe two of the worst GMs of the last 10 years get to spew the stuff they do on NFL network

SAUTO 02-22-2013 03:56 PM

Add in polian's dumb ass.

He probably got fired for saying he wouldn't draft luck, keep Manning, then we hear there isn't a qb there this year from him
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fairladyZ 02-22-2013 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook (Post 9425664)
I think Geno will do better than Barkley in the interviews.

http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploa...conference.gif

RunKC 02-23-2013 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ (Post 9427316)

This is very accurate ^

B14ckmon 02-23-2013 03:25 AM

If Barkley was black this forum would be gobbling his knob like Geno. Some people just get jealous of the popular blonde QB from SoCal.

ChiefRocka 02-23-2013 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9427661)
If Barkley was black this forum would be gobbling his knob like Geno. Some people just get jealous of the popular blonde QB from SoCal.

http://files.brandflakesforbreakfast...757273.jpg?m=1

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-23-2013 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon (Post 9427661)
If Barkley was black this forum would be gobbling his knob like Geno. Some people just get jealous of the popular blonde QB from SoCal.

lol...yep, CP; keepin whitey down...
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ChiefRocka 02-23-2013 06:05 PM

Anyone else notice Barkley's odd stature at the podium yesterday? He looks like he has shoulder pads on.

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nf...no-barkley.jpg

B14ckmon 02-23-2013 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 9429308)
Anyone else notice Barkley's odd stature at the podium yesterday? He looks like he has shoulder pads on.

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nf...no-barkley.jpg

Him and Genos posture looks nearly identical too me in that pic. Other than that Genos was a closer shot.

TRR 02-24-2013 09:09 AM

Matt Miller (NFLDraftScout)

Text I received from a scout this morning: Matt Barkley will not get past the Arizona # Cardinals at No. 7 overall.
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htismaqe 02-24-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefRocka (Post 9429308)
Anyone else notice Barkley's odd stature at the podium yesterday? He looks like he has shoulder pads on.

http://prod.static.patriots.clubs.nf...no-barkley.jpg

In the Dan Patrick interview he did a while back, he had the same thing. He grimaced when he moved.

It's his shoulder.

htismaqe 02-24-2013 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9431093)
Matt Miller (NFLDraftScout)

Text I received from a scout this morning: Matt Barkley will not get past the Arizona # Cardinals at No. 7 overall.
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That's the BEST news yet.

OrtonsPiercedTaint 02-24-2013 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 9431093)
Matt Miller (NFLDraftScout)

Text I received from a scout this morning: Matt Barkley will not get past the Arizona # Cardinals at No. 7 overall.
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I guess the "USC QBs suck" don't faze them. At all.

htismaqe 02-24-2013 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 9431243)
I guess the "USC QBs suck" don't faze them. At all.

They did draft Leinart.

Sweet Daddy Hate 02-24-2013 10:20 AM

sweet! The train kept a rollin'.
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ChiefsCountry 03-07-2013 09:07 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/m...s-wrong-030613

NFL mock drafts are a little like teenage girls; you fall out of favor with a popular one, and it is only a matter of time until the whole clique is down on you. This change of circumstance only occasionally has any bearing on long-term desirability.

And so it is with USC quarterback Matt Barkley.

His slow fade from projected No. 3 selection (behind a few guys named Luck and RG3) if he had come out after his junior season a year ago to potentially a Day 2 guy this April (as ridiculous as this sounds to me) has many origins, fair and not so much. To name a few:

Arm strength. Speed. Sack totals. Accuracy when pressured. Mark Sanchez. Turnovers. Interception totals. Smaller upside. USC’s wildly disappointing season.

All of them have been dissected ad nauseum. Yet when I talk to NFL scouts about said problems, what emerges amounts to a lot of versions of basically the same response: All of that is great. Watch him go early, earlier than any of you think and do pretty well, too.

Why is simple. "Tape don’t lie," as my friend Randy Galloway loves to say almost daily. And what Barkley’s tape screams is "NFL ready now," a quality not to be diminished in this league. He is capable of making every single throw, with a decent enough long ball and really crazy smarts, making him capable of reading and handling NFL defenses now.

Or in other words, all of the things we thought he was a year ago.

It got twisted because of what a train wreck USC’s season became — from national championship aspirations into yet another chapter in Lane Kiffin’s coaching dramedy. It also got twisted because of Sanchez’s struggles in New York.

They are different arguments. They are equally ridiculous.

Barkley deserves to be dropped in the grease for the hot mess that was USC’s season only so much as Kiffin and just about everybody else. This was not the case of an overrated quarterback taking down an otherwise bullet-proof program. This was a quarterback fighting against the dying of the light, more successfully at times than others.

As for the Sanchez comparison, which I have seen a couple of times, this seems unfair to both guys. Sanchez has taken far too much heat for the dysfunction that is the Jets. This is not to say Sanchez is not flawed, and possibly fatally so in terms of being a quarterback capable of leading a team to the Super Bowl. It is simply inaccurate to pretend he is the only or biggest problem with that team. Nor does this have anything to do with Barkley.

It says more about our love of the comparison than anything.

We love grouping people, and the USC NFL quarterbacks of late are not exactly what you want your small comparison group to be. Matt Leinart and Sanchez (to a much smaller degree) have failed on the expectation-to-production continuum. It is easy then to lump Barkley in with them and extrapolate that out to his pro prospects, especially in light of his senior season.

I know the argument is that other quarterbacks in the draft, most notably Geno Smith, have a bigger upside — that what he brings in Year 2, Year 3 and Year 4 has more potential than Barkley. It is the fallacy of upside, that what you might be capable of is that much more impressive than what you are right now.

There is a good balance to be had. Drafting a guy with no room for improvement is not the wisest of decisions, but neither is bringing in a guy without a winnable gap. A lot of coaches have died on the hill of potential, and there is comfort in the guy who can be good now.

It is probably why you see Barkley inching his way back up through the first round because, as the high school girls eventually learn, it is the ones not everybody likes that turn out being the best.

Nightfyre 03-07-2013 09:12 PM

I would say it is more the story of a prospect with an unconvincing arm suffering a shoulder injury and being unable to demonstrate adequate arm strength after said shoulder injury. His pro-day will be telling.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-07-2013 09:19 PM

Not my first choice, but considering our current catastro****; yes please.
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Nightfyre 03-07-2013 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 9475340)
It is probably why you see Barkley inching his way back up through the first round because, as the high school girls eventually learn, it is the ones not everybody likes that turn out being the best.

I'm also sure I could make a tasteless joke about chocolate penises as they relate to this line. But I will leave that to gochiefs.

Mr_Tomahawk 03-08-2013 09:50 PM

After studying this year's draft-eligible signal callers, NFL Films' Greg Cosell mentioned Miami (OH) QB Zac Dysert as one of the quarterbacks he finds very "intriguing" on game tape.
Rotoworld draft guru Josh Norris is also a fan of Dysert. "He's a better arm talent than Matt Barkley," Cosell said of Dysert. "Now he's a little scattershot, and that's a problem -- all these quarterbacks have flaws. Now he ran a spread offense, so you don't see a lot of downfield throws. But if you look hard enough, you watch a lot of games -- which I have -- you do see some downfield throws. He has enough arm to make those throws." Mar 8 - 10:42 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8377/zac-dysert

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-08-2013 11:17 PM

Nah, lets just get another lineman and renew our tickets...
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OrtonsPiercedTaint 03-08-2013 11:40 PM

Barkley with a sweet mullet could work.

rico 03-09-2013 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint (Post 9478731)
Barkley with a sweet mullet could work.

Makes me think of Girlbac for some reason.

Sorter 03-09-2013 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 9478368)
After studying this year's draft-eligible signal callers, NFL Films' Greg Cosell mentioned Miami (OH) QB Zac Dysert as one of the quarterbacks he finds very "intriguing" on game tape.
Rotoworld draft guru Josh Norris is also a fan of Dysert. "He's a better arm talent than Matt Barkley," Cosell said of Dysert. "Now he's a little scattershot, and that's a problem -- all these quarterbacks have flaws. Now he ran a spread offense, so you don't see a lot of downfield throws. But if you look hard enough, you watch a lot of games -- which I have -- you do see some downfield throws. He has enough arm to make those throws." Mar 8 - 10:42 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8377/zac-dysert

One thing that most don't take into consideration is how much easier it is to get better velocity on the NFL ball.

Barkley's arm strength is going to be a carbon copy of Andy Dalton's or better provided he isn't completely ****ed over from his injury. Which means it's going to be fine.


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