Regular season stats are largely irrelevant in a playoff game.

Ask any GM, coach or defensive coordinator. They'd rather face Hoyer than Roethlisberger.

This isn't rocket science but homers just keep on truckin.'

Sadly. Those folks actually believe that hidden touchdowns and punter setups are actual stats that are measured and tracked.

You're changing the argument and ignoring the other context I provided.

Roethlisberger and the Steelers were still a defensive team with no defense. Their offense hadn't yet begun its ascension. Roethlisberger's stats back then and the years before that support this. Your Roethlisberger shit was revision history because that team ****ing sucked including him.

The Chiefs beat a team on the same level handily in their house, while the Broncos won a close one at home.

The Chiefs playoff win was easily more impressive. Shut the **** up already.

Broncos have gotten so lucky in the playoffs. How many steeler defenders got hurt in that Tebow game? They lost a shit load of talent to injury that day.

Then in 2015 they play the Steelers again with no LeVeon bell, no AB, no DeAngelo Williams and Big Ben had a major injury to his throwing arm.

The Steelers had the number 1 defense in 2011....

That Tebow Bronco playoff win against Big Ben and the #1 D was way more impressive than the Texans Hoyer win

LMAO

staylor, pwned again

When I said they had no defense I meant in that game, hence a "defensive team with no defense". They were depleted with injuries/aging players. The Tebow led Broncos scored 29. Did you even ****ing watch that game?

Another idiot that's looking at stats and didn't watch the game.

So Roethlisberger's regular season stats matter, but Pitt's defensive ranking doesn't. LMAO

Cherry picking m'fer.

Nothing changed with Roethlisberger from the regular season to the playoffs.

A lot changed with that defense.

Shut the **** up.

You can't honestly think a playoff win against Hoyer and a Texans team that didn't show for the game is more impressive than an OT win behind 300 yards and 2 touchdowns from Tim Tebow against Big Ben and the #1 defense that had won multiple SBs.

What are you trying to say exactly?

I don't see the point of this post. A playoff WC win is just that a playoff WC win which one was more 'impressive' doesn't really matter.

Yeah, I don't really get the point of any Chiefs' fan flexing nuts on this. I really could care less which win was more impressive. I care about which win was more meaningful. No matter how bad the Texans were, this is exactly the type of game the Chiefs always frustratingly lose in the playoffs. This is exactly the type of game the Bengals lose every single year in the playoffs. The Broncos don't have the history the Chiefs have of playoff disappointment.

It is a huge weight off the franchise to not have to worry about the drought. If you don't believe that, talk to any Bengals fan.

Staylor all upset over facts... Broncos are in your head...

Its time we go ahead and start winning consistanly in the playoffs... We love to flex our regular season dick and throw around the win/loss record of Alex and Andy...

But its time we start worrying about winning when it matters and stop getting pounded like a $3 hooker...

1-3 is kinda sad considering we spout off about winning meaningless games...

Beating the Texans with Hoyer is like losing your virginity by paying a hooker. Sure it counts and feels good but it's still not the best way to go about it.

Big Ben wasn't injured so badly he shouldn't have played. Clearly his injury had 0 effect on the outcome of that one....

You disregard a blowout win against a playoff team by using the Hoyer argument. Meanwhile every single one of our losses came at a 1 score loss with many key players out with injury.

Geno, being Geno. ROFL

I like how you guys try to downplay beating a playoff team. The Bills haven't made the playoffs in 17-years... Before Reid/Alex Smith got here it was 21-years since we won a playoff gm. That's a long time and we've had some good teams here. Think about that for a second.

This is the NFL, the best players/coaches in the world. Winning any NFL playoff game is impressive and an accomplishment. Hell winning a game in the NFL is an accomplishment. Every team and game is tough and a different challenge.

Most of you guys probably couldn't even make your HS football team and you want to compare beating a playoff team to buying a hooker because Alex Smith isn't an elite QB so stupid...

Give credit where credit is due. It was a great win for this organization to finally get that monkey off our back.

Did you just throw out HS football smack as a reference to someones ability to discuss football?

You probably couldn't make the high school debate team, and that never seemed to stop you on here.

We have a different directive now. Win a Super Bowl. Alex is not the guy to do that.

But he was a good guy to stabilize our franchise which was badly needed at that time. He outlived that purpose probably around last year. And the Chiefs went out and aggressively went after his replacement. So the team seems to recognize that meaningless wins aren't enough. As long as they understand that, I don't have a problem with Alex being the transition guy.

This coming draft, 2017, is gonna be a better QB draft class.

You going to draft one?

That's not what I meant. You figure it out I'm not going to spell it out for you.

Just because I disagree with people who talk about Alex Smith like he is the worst QB of all-time doesn't mean I can't talk about football on an internet message board.

What is it a requirement that I have to hate Alex Smith to post here so I don't offend you guys? Sorry I never got that memo.

Nice, so you said this "Most of you guys probably couldn't even make your HS football team and you want to compare beating a playoff team to buying a hooker because Alex Smith isn't an elite QB so stupid..." but its not what you meant?

No, just pointing this out. KC could have not lost its first round pick, and taken a better QB in the next draft.

Hes not the worse of all time... Hes just not "the guy" that has "IT" to lead a team in the playoffs... Like what I did there. Threw out some lame cliches...

12 years in the league and what 2 playoff wins? Nah, thanks Alex, but were done here...

Thanks for your insightful insight there scooter...

Already throwing the towel in on Grbac Jr, eh?

I don't blame you

Yeah, the 2017 draft is going to be great.

ROFL

****ing dumbass

ROFL

Yes

Closet TrueFan sighted.

Oops, 2018 draft. Point remains the same.

Yeah, it does, because you're ****ing stupid

I didn't realize we had people on CP that can predict the future. No QB in the next draft has the arm talent nor the play making ability of Mahomes. The guy had an all time terrible defense and still kicked ass. Texas Tech lost like 4 games when they scored over 35 points.

Only the USC kid is a true bad ass and he will stay in school if the wring team has the number one pick. He basically said so when he told teams not to tank for him.

Meh, don't care. Fact is KC traded up for a QB who can't even start because he comes from a college chuck and duck system. The 2018 draft will have better QBs and it will be deeper too.

Stop taking out of your ass

Congrats. You just described Paxton Lynch and admitted that he has no shot

The Chiefs drafted a QB of the FUTURE.

Not 2017 and most likely, not 2018.

FUTURE.

You're smoking crack if you think the Chiefs could have jumped into the Top Three without giving up a massive amount of future draft choices.

The first time you make a sensible post on CP will be the first time.

You, my friend, are a useless ****ing tool.

The Broncos gave up a third round pick for Lynch and he's probably gonna start this year. Plus the Broncos drafted a better NFL QB prospect in Kelly (than Mahomes) in the 7th round.

Well we drafted a better prospect in the 2nd round. And my dad is better than your dad.

If they had wanted a QB who was more pro-ready, they'd have picked one of the ones that was available.

Obviously, they feel fine with Alex Smith in the short term and did not see picking a project QB high in the first round as an issue.

I don't think anyone should be concerned with Mahomes as a quarterback on draft day, my main concern is whether Andy Reid can develop him, being that there isn't much evidence of his ability to do that other than McNabb, who was from the pro-ready category, and that was closing in on 20 years ago.

The right coaching, offense, and personnel situation could certainly see Mahomes develop into a great QB. Time will prove if we have that.

What team trades up that far in the first round, for a QB project?

The one that traded two second round picks for Alex Smith, and thinks they can contend for a Super Bowl with him?

Touché.

One that has the time to work on the development of a QB that they believe has elite upside.

He's closing in on the Casselian Eternity.

ROFL:clap:

And that ends THAT debate. Thank you, and GOODNIGHT!

People do tend to take the best prospects with the last pick in the draft.

If he's the better QB prospect, then why did 32 teams pass on the dude four or more times over?

We'll see who declares, but thus far it looks like 2018 isn't all that it's cracked up to be. People were down on Mahomes, Watson, and others in this class for a lack of familiarity with pro system concepts, but the top of 2018 is populated with guys like Lamar Jackson, Lucas Falk, Chase Litton, and Mason Rudolph. Dumbed down spread/air raid concept offenses, or as you call them "college chuck and duck" systems-- and NONE of those guys have the arm talent that Mahomes has.

Darnold might not even declare, and he's had ONE season-- he's still largely an unknown. He might be pretty damn good, though. Rosen apparently is a ****ing toolbag and his path to the NFL seems to be taking the Christian Hackenberg turn. And Josh Allen might be the best of the bunch, or he might be a flaming bag of dicks if he can't figure out how to get better control and accuracy on his throws.

It's still really early to tell, but everybody claiming 2018 is an endless sea of awesome NFL starting QBs needs to pump the brakes.

**** off, **** Rag

When was the last time won with a QB they drafted?

The Broncos

Matt Cassel had ONE winning season, Coward.

**** off and die, [name removed for filter evasion]

Wrong again

You're right, I'm wrong.

They traded for a 6'7 of Osweiler.

Good luck.

I guess I should say the team that traded picks for Alex Smith, that thinks they can contend with Alex Smith, that once thought Matt Cassel, Herman Edwards, and Romeo Crennel were answers; the team that once went into a season with Brodie Croyle starting at QB; that kept Carl Peterson enthroned through 4 presidential administrations but is now on its fourth GM in the last decade; a team with ownership that was torn on deciding if Scott Pioli had done enough to get fired but sent Dorsey out on a rail after presiding over everything they extended Andy Reid for... the team that once made "Play good football" and "Eliminate bad football" rallying cries... we should be used to it all by now.

I know, I know... "your choice to be a fan" :clap:

All is well, we have great ownership, a great regular season coach, and a QB who's haughtiest boast would be that he throws a lower than average number of interceptions. Get your super bowl tickets now...

You can't pimp your real name one this website for more than a decade, then suddenly, "Hey, stop publishing my real name, even though I've authorized them use of my real na,e for more than a decade.".

There isn't court of law, anywhere, that would stand by that ruling.

Claynus, otherwise known as [name removed for filter evasion] ****ed himself.

For the 235,214th time and counting.

I'm sure his future dates will be thrilled.

I can't see what you linked, but go away, Dumbo.

Besides the fact you've brought ZERO to this forum since you joined, the jizz on your lips from sucking off Claynus dried a long time ago.

Adios, Cockbag.

i have obviously provided 2858 posts for you to hate, so i have done 'something' here. nor did i say i was leaving the forum, so i don't know who you are waving goodbye to.

of all the immature posters here, you have got to be the worst whinger of them all. i hate to bring up old shit, but your wife must be a very unhappy woman for you to be filled with this amount of rage.

do your kids flinch when you sneeze?

Now, now. Be kind

Mr. [name removed for filter evasion], that's his name. No one ever knew his name cause he's a no-one.

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You're right. I'm the biggest "whinger" of them all.

Rage? Against epic dipshit like you? A ****ing **** that ran away from America to become Australian, just to have kids that don't like you and a second wife that cheats on you all the time?

Wha?

it's emotionally challenging for me. you see, when all is calm i actually like dane, tiger, clay, etc...

and i obviously have partaken in some of the shit throwing, but man they can muck up the board. they are easily derailable and takes the fun out of it. but if i don't throw my hat in the middle of the ring, i wouldn't get a word in edge wise ;)

How large is your vagina?

That took ONE MINUTE

LOLOLOL

okay, baby steps. i have only had one wife. my current one. i didn't run away to australia, i flew. and finally given you and my distance, it is creepy you would know my wife is cheating on me. do tell :D

Okay, I guess the last wife was imaginary.

JFC, you talked about your last wife and kids.

If you wanna to again, I'm all in

Here's the problem, Genious (CP spelling): I have an Eidetic Memory.

Good luck!

this is where you let your ego get in the way of reality. i may have mentioned my kids and their mother(s), but i never said i was married before my current wife. i had been engaged twice, but then broke it off due to them being batshit crazy. does that help clear up your memory? :D

quick, board, dane is going to spend the next two hours searching my posts to try and prove i have been married more than once. now is your time to collectively post your thoughts without fear of McCumBubble interrupting the convo :D

If you figured out 2 were batshit crazy, what made you think the 3rd wouldn't be? All women are ****ing crazy.

more like idiotic memory then ROFL

At that point, it's the man, not the woman