It's heresay at this point, but from people who have good sources and the information completely fits the facts that are known, that the child sustained some severe injuries apart from the broken arm that could not be interpreted as any well-meaning attempt at discipline.

I think you have this backward, buddy.

To take away someone's freedom should demand the highest standard of proof.

To take away someone's job should necessitate a somewhat lower burden.

It's why the burden of proof in a criminal case is much more severe than a civil one.

They are not married.

Better delete this. It's not gonna sit well with the lynch mob crowd here. :eek:

That's definitely true. I agree.

I guess I mean more that I don't know why the NFL wades into these waters the way they do.

IMO we were using a pick on a receiver regardless. I don't believe Hill was ever going to stay here past 2020. He strikes me as a guy who'd want a bigger spotlight than KC can provide.

Waived fifth amendment? That deserves it's own thread.

So then the tweets about the 5th amendment are bullshit?

I honestly think what Steve said was lawsuit worthy. I don't think they smear some random family that way.

Have you noticed the big ass billboards all around the nation with Mahomes on them? I don't think spotlight is a problem in KC.

I would agree considering tweetland was blasting him yesterday for hiding behind the 5th

FYP

I’m saying in my situation. I would divorce my wife.

It was a weird statement that’s for sure.

What you believe and what you can prove Are not the Same.

I want to add I trust Duncan's posts and is a pretty good guy from what I have seen from his posts. But honestly shouldn't spread news like that that hasn't been released to the public. He knows the person and trusts them but none of us know them. A person that works in a profession that deals with this sort of business can have a very skewed idea of what happened here. WE dont know how or why they think this and what training they have in the matter.

We're expected to believe that he went and procured an actual whip, like a slave-era whip, to use on his 3 year old?

Might as well shut down 99% of the board if we can’t discuss things that aren’t 100% known.

Florio sweating.

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Wasn't Florio pushing that narrative hard?

Your not the judge or the jury what someone says sways you that easy then just wow.

Good news.

Tyreek is still a dumb**** if he is protecting an abuser.

I trust Hill more then hacks like Florio who has hated Hill since this news broke months ago

Apparently so. Funny how this isn't getting more play, when it's kind of a BIG DEAL. Imagine that... Must not fit a certain narrative or something. :rolleyes:

I don't think many would argue that there aren't more opportunities for self promotion in New York or LA. That's what I mean. He's a big fish in a small pond here. And not even the biggest fish thanks to Mahomes. I think he might want to swim in a much bigger pond.

I thought about that as well. DA I think crossed the line with his remarks. He basicly said the boy was injured and one of the parents did it. Then says the records will be sealed. He sure made it public knowledge. Those remarks affect Hills life a lot. He should sue their ass.

Yes he is! I swear him and Brooke operate exactly the same

If you want notoriety KC is as good a place as any. In the NFL winning gets you notoriety. Tying your self to a great QB is the best way to win. Does not matter where Green Bay, Pittsburgh, Indy... win with a high scoring team and you will be golden.

I know, right? Pretty funny that he and others think that they are. And the deal is, the more posts they have, the more they're convinced. :rolleyes:

Discussion and conviction are two different things.

I believe that is correct

Why should he get suspended at this point? That's a bullshit statement unless they can prove he did it or lied about something ...

Keep telling yourself that

I believe Hill is cooperating with the NFL. His 100 mil dollar deal himges on his cooperation. He’s innocent and has nothing to hide. Still believe the parents are the ones at fault here

:clap: it's a joke man. They know absolutely nothing more than the rest if us.

Absolutely. The DA can't decline to press charges, then defame, and not have consequences.

I agree.

Wait, wut.

because feeling...

Rapoport said NFL was I’ll not make a decision on Hill till the CPS investigation concludes along with the Chiefs extending him. Basically if CPS finds no wrongdoing, Hill will be a Chief for life and no suspension

He did not basically say one of the parents did it. There were "other" names listed on the complaint. He said he has reason to believe a crime had been committed and that he cant bring charges to anyone. That doesnt mean he believes Hill or his wife did the deed but you can assume that the whole truth isnt being told about how the boy was injured.

Well if he gets half a season he will be ready to go for a playoff push. I am just afraid we will be out of the playoffs by then.

Hill will not be suspended if CPS found that the child is safe to live with Tyreek

A prerequisite for proving they made defamatory statements about him would be proving that the statements are false. That would require bringing the sealed information into the case to prove that no crime was committed. Do you think that would be productive for the Hill camp?

I do find some of the timing interesting. We know there was a broken arm in January from a picture of him in a cast. But the 2 complaints that were filed were both in early March. I would expect that the cast was off by then so something else must have occurred to generate those complaints. As to what that may have been, we have no idea.

I honestly do not think this is directly due to anything Tyreek did. I think it was someone else in the picture whether Crystal or her parents, or someone else. I expect that what this will mean in the long run is that Tyreek and Crystal (I hope I am spelling that right!) will need to go through some parenting classes and DCS will have regular check up visits for 6 months to a year. As long as all of that goes well this will be over.

He could probably nab Florio.

Are you for real, man? You've done NOTHING but judge. Meanwhile, srvy has kept an open mind, has demonstrated that he's not easily swayed by heresay and doesn't want to conclude anything until all the facts are in. You're way off on this one.

So you are the Judge and Jury here?

I have never once in any these thread on this Tyreek matter made any judgement whatsoever. I stated I would wait as soon as the facts came out. The facts are No Charges!

You on the other hand have been all over the map and tried and convicted long ago. You tend to pretend you're above us all on morality.

There were multiple police calls to the house and there were injuries on another occasion besides the broken arm.

Naw, it will be the LAST half...;)

If the Chiefs miss the playoffs, something seriously terrible will have taken place and you all know what I’m talking about (but I won’t say it out loud). :D

He waived his 5th Amendment rights.

That should tell everyone something.

I have not followed this all that closely but this is the first I have heard about this. If there were police calls then there will be records of those calls. Where are they and why have they not come out? Other injuries as in hospital visits? Again, this does not seem like something that would have remained quiet this whole time and I would think that in one of these threads I would have read something about this.

Can anyone else confirm these claims?

Dude get your damn facts straight. There were not multiple police calls to the house.

Haven't looked close but I thought first half of the schedule was easier than the second. Am I wrong?

It tells me he was at the very least willing to open his mouth but it doesnt necessarily mean the truth or whole truth came out.

I believe the DA specifically said that in the press conference yesterday.

He is wrong, this was all started when someone tweeted some shit to the Overland Park PD and the Star.

There have been 2 investigations but the police were never "called to the house."

Are you suggesting that no guilty people ever talk to the police?

Wrong.

They record interviews so he'd be realllllly stupid to try to lie to them. You tell the truth or shut the hell up, you don't lie.

Most guilty people do talk to police and investigators because they think they can talk their way out of it, and because they fear that not talking will bring them under greater suspicion.

I have not seen this?

That's heresey at this point.

He good

I can't find a transcript right now, but he definitely said that 2 separate incidents were under investigation, and that there had been police called to the home. I don't know if he specifically said the police were called multiple times, such as for both incidents.

ROFL

The first of the two incidents was already dismissed. That was the accusation that the child was left at home alone when in reality, Reek's Parents were watching the boy.

And your experience in this is what?

I hope one day a few of you are accused of something awful and your name is dragged through the media and everyone assumes you are guilty without any evidence.

The First 48.

multiple an amount more than 2, couple is 2, words mean things...

Eleazer you really should think first before posting. Talking out your ass does not make you more believable.

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The press conference did nothing to clear up Hill's status with the Chiefs and the NFL. And does the CPS investigation even matter? The DA said a crime was committed but didn't say by who, so obviously the DA thinks the kid was abused, and it is likely the CPS report will indicate the same thing. Don't see where the closure is going to come on this. About the only thing we can be confident in is that Hill won't be signing any type of long-term contract with the Chiefs anytime soon. Other than that...who knows....

I'm sorry you're so distressed that Hill may have torpedoed his own career. Even if he has, this team will be fine.

****The Tyreek Hill Thread***

Posted by duncan idaho

Mistakes are one thing.

Repeatedly punching and strangling a pregnant woman is another.

If he does get the big deal and gets it from the Chiefs, “making it right” would involve a little more than just staying out of trouble and doing what he’s required to do to not go to prison.


She’s a prosecutor. Special victims background. But it’s not about a personal stake.

I would be disgusted by his actions, that he was drafted by my team, and embarrassed he played for my team regardless.

I won’t throw a fit. I’ll continue to be disgusted and embarrassed, though.

I don’t care what he does in uniform for the Chiefs. I don’t care if they win the Super Bowl with him.

My reaction to him will continue to be disgust that he plays for the team that I follow. And embarrassment.

I’ll give him credit for keeping his nose clean and following his rules. But that doesn’t change the way I feel.

My wife didn’t tell me that people who abuse women are pieces of shit. I’ve held that opinion for a long time.

All her work did was frame that opinion with the depressing reality of how many women stay - especially when children are involved - and how rarely “I just lost my temper that one time” is a true statement.


Duncan has a right to his opinion and what Reek did in the past was horrible, I think we all agree on that. But Duncan has been one of the most vocal critics of the pick since day 1 and absolutely Hates Reek. Now he has "Insider" info on a sealed case?

Seems suspicious at best. If the info is true, then Duncan broke the confidence of his informant, who supposedly disclosed personal information during an ongoing investigation by both CPS and the DA.

If you are going to condemn Reek as the media has, and state as a fact, he did this to his poor son, better post some proof- something the DA does not even have.

My grandson was being abused by his mother. When we went to court, I had mountains of evidence; pictures of the bruises, bite marks, punch marks, 3rd-degree curling iron burn on his hand- medical reports from 3 hospitals --and DFS did Nothing, the DA did Nothing and the Courts did Nothing.

If you are going to accuse someone of a horrible crime, you better have Proof instead of second-hand hearsay.

CPS is supposed to be about helping the family and the child going forward.

It really is not their job to investigate endlessly so that they can **** up the family's finances by endangering their employment.

Since our state governments have given agencies and courts the power to break up families if they think something is wrong, the process must be confidential so that families can realistically feel that they are being helped and not railroaded.

It is not right for the media and the NFL to use compelled participation in a CPS case as some kind of investigative technique to find an excuse to ruin the family and therefore the child.

CPS, the DA and media like Brooke Pryor are using Reek's celebrity status to further their own agendas. Meanwhile, since this has been going on, hundreds of little kids in the metro have been abused in horrific ways and nothing will be done. They only care about them if there is a benefit to be exploited.