Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11103177)

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Originally Posted by eDave (Post 11103220)

What's this?

http://empirenews.net/nascar-tony-st...peting-driver/

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 11103213)

I like that kind of racing wish we could see more of that I wouldn't be surprised if some people want want turn signals on the cars next instead of Nascar racing it will be called Sissy racing.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11101577)

That was pretty much the scoring system before the Chase came about. Rewards consistency rather than wins.

Originally Posted by KCTitus (Post 11103238)

not really...it was 3 points per position, so each position was the same value. They changed it to one point per position shortly after the chase to simplify the point system. Problem is I disagree that passing position 12 for position 11 should garner the same amount points as if one were passing 3rd for 2nd place.

Originally Posted by Fairplay (Post 11103234)

Breaking news story, damn. Its not on Nascar or ESPN site yet hopefully that's a legit source eDave.

Some of the stories on that site are highly questionable I might add.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11103016)

My favorite driver is no longer racing. And trust me he had his fair share bumps and bruises a long the way. And he never bitched like school girls about it though. Well, there was one time he accused Jeff Gordon and Ray Everham of cheating for a win. You probably wouldn't remember it.

Nascar already addressed aggressive driving last week. Brian France has publicly said he doesn't have a problem with the aggressive driving going on.

Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11103177)

You are being emotional about it. This is how stock cars are raced. Everyday, including Monday. Elliott was over the hill before he was truly liked by the fans. Ernie Irvan, Davey Allison, Alan Kulwicki, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin and the likes came a long and pushed Bill out of stardom. 6... or 7 championships with Dale. Who cares. You have been awarded the world's smallest violin. Casual fans who have come into the mix in the last 10-15 yrs like you read how many championships a driver has. Stock car racing fans simply don't care how many championships a driver has. They know it truly is better to be lucky than good. There are so many things that can happen throughout the course of a season that can bring a team out of the points it isn't even funny. Do you really think Mark Martin and his legacy will be tarnished by him not winning a championship? Tell me, why does Dale Earnhardt have 7 championships instead of 6? Did he ever benefit ever from someone's misfortune?

Here is a good example of every move you crybabies are whining about. Ten lap shootout for the 1987 Winston.

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 11103177)

You are being emotional about it. This is how stock cars are raced. Everyday, including Monday. Elliott was over the hill before he was truly liked by the fans. Ernie Irvan, Davey Allison, Alan Kulwicki, Rusty Wallace, Mark Martin and the likes came a long and pushed Bill out of stardom. 6... or 7 championships with Dale. Who cares. You have been awarded the world's smallest violin. Casual fans who have come into the mix in the last 10-15 yrs like you read how many championships a driver has. Stock car racing fans simply don't care how many championships a driver has. They know it truly is better to be lucky than good. There are so many things that can happen throughout the course of a season that can bring a team out of the points it isn't even funny. Do you really think Mark Martin and his legacy will be tarnished by him not winning a championship? Tell me, why does Dale Earnhardt have 7 championships instead of 6? Did he ever benefit ever from someone's misfortune?

Here is a good example of every move you crybabies are whining about. Ten lap shootout for the 1987 Winston.

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Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 11104000)

LMAO the Winston known as the all star race and non points. Ironically you bring up a race that your driver Bill Elliott was enraged after. He was crying as you call it over Dale not racing him clean LMAO For a self proclaimed 35 year expert you sure seem confused. I like aggressive racing and have no issue with the old bumper horn when someone is blocking. I have no issue with holding your ground and trading paint. I do not agree with wrecking someone on purpose to win~

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11104141)

Ex-****ing-Zactly! I moved to (back) Va. Beach in 1976, lived there until 1983 (and retunred a few times!), and in that period I considered myself to be pretty close to the epicenter of NASCAR. Add to it my Bro-inlaw used to build motors for Ricky Rudd (why I'm a little partial to THAT ONE Ford driver!!), so I may not know it all, but I've been around it for while.

None of that makes me right about anything, but of somebody wants to compare the size of their NASCAR dick to anybody else, that's what I've got.

As for rough driving, as long as they're all doing it, but it's not wrecking people on purpose (EXACTLY what we've seen in the last two weeks!), it's driving rough and it's fun if everybody's doing it right.

It's the real difference between things like F1 and NASCAR, I love both, but it's something that having a body around you allows, and that's cool..

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 11104335)

I live in North Carolina which is the epicenter. I grew up in the Midwest. I don't know it all however I have a working knowledge of the sport. When someone starts swelling up not even knowing as much as I do I will have some fun with them~

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11104394)

NC is a great place for NASCAR, especially if you're in/around Charlotte.

I used to spend endless amounts of time stealing away to the the OBX to surf, then my brother (LOL, a LONG time ago), opened the first Safeway in Kill Devil Hills, lived in Manteo, then in Colington, and finally more west in NC in Forest City. But most of the family lives in and around the Winston Salem area, so I've sent a way-long time in NC, but they're still my rival because I sorta hail from Virginia! :D

Originally Posted by RedNeckRaider (Post 11104428)

I live eastern Carolina. It is a very reasonable drive to several race shops or the hall of fame for that matter. For what's it worth I had a grand uncle who was a member of the Virginia sharp shooters who was with the group who had the failed attempt to kill Lincoln. He was rounded up and taken to the Elmira death camp where he died. It should be noted I had several relatives who fought on both sides. As far as the attempt on Lincoln the shooter was never identified so it is indeed possible it was him~

Originally Posted by GloryDayz (Post 11104445)

My in-laws lived in New Bern before they died, and that is a pretty nice place in and of itself...