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RealSNR 11-12-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9109160)
Good luck with that kind of hope.

No hope required.

YOU'RE the one who depends on hope. You're advocating cleaning out all of our best players and replacing them with rookies. What are the odds that you find REMOTELY adequate replacements for all of Flowers, DJ, Albert, Bowe, and Hali?

Very small. Very very very small. Under your plan you're putting us in an unmanageable hole for 10+ years. You're putting this team into a 2003-present Oakland Raiders type of hole.

That's a huge and unnecessary gamble. If a player is shown to be as fickle as it is depending on who's the coach and how they practice, doesn't it make sense that with a new coach in charge (hopefully one who's competent) they will play back at their usual high level?

I'm no football GM, but my theory makes a lot more ****ing sense than the garbage you're proposing.

For the record:

BlackBob's plan going into 2013: No QB, Manti Te'o, no other playmakers around him

Normal people's plan going into 2013: QB, no Manti Te'o, but we get to keep Albert, Flowers, DJ, Hali, Charles, and hopefully Bowe.

RealSNR 11-12-2012 01:15 PM

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When you pin all of your hopes on a guy that has never played a snap, you better know what you are getting into
I just noticed this.

Bob, for all your denial about not being a True Fan, you sure like to spout off their rhetoric, don't you?

the Talking Can 11-12-2012 01:16 PM

black reerun is the king of true fans...he's a pussy

DaKCMan AP 11-12-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9109143)
That's making the assumption that he'd have the same stats if he played Kansas State or an equivalent four times. Maryland I'd actually point to as a defining game because he got absolutely pummeled by that defense but still did what he did. Which furthers the point that football is a team game, and that we're talking about Smith in a bubble, like he's somehow solely responsible for his team's performance. When the reality is that he - like every quarterback everywhere - isn't even solely responsible for his performance. So you also have the additional weight of the questions "how much of his off game was him, how much was his (awful) offensive line, how much was his receivers (less I would say) and how much was gameplanning and coaching?" Hell, if we're going to cherry-pick scenarios, we could wonder what the stats would looks like if we shipped Barkley to Morganhole and put Smith in Los Angeles.

Of course we don't get to do that, so we'll never know. Hence the next 5 months.

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Sweet Daddy Hate 11-12-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9109186)
I just noticed this.

Soren, for all your denial about not being a True Fan, you sure like to spout off their rhetoric, don't you?

Aaaaaaaaaaaand FXD!

RealSNR 11-12-2012 01:17 PM

Also, why is it so damaging to a team if a QB busts versus a DT or an OT who busts?

Either way you still end up with a busted pick. And it's not like the other positions have the QB beat. You're just as likely to draft a bust WR, DT, OT as you are to draft a bust QB. Except when you draft a QB, the potential rewards are infinitely higher.

Woodchuck 11-12-2012 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9109186)
I just noticed this.

Bob, for all your denial about not being a True Fan, you sure like to spout off their rhetoric, don't you?

No dude, I am 100% for drafting QB after QB but, I realize we are starting the rebuild in 2013. You are a true fan because you believe we could go places with guys like Flowers, Bowe, and DJ. Pioli hung his hat on those guys too...

RealSNR 11-12-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9109201)
No dude, I am 100% for drafting QB after QB but, I realize we are starting the rebuild in 2013. You are a true fan because you believe we could go places with guys like Flowers, Bowe, and DJ. Pioli hung his hat on those guys too...

*sigh*

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9109183)
No hope required.

YOU'RE the one who depends on hope. You're advocating cleaning out all of our best players and replacing them with rookies. What are the odds that you find REMOTELY adequate replacements for all of Flowers, DJ, Albert, Bowe, and Hali?

Very small. Very very very small. Under your plan you're putting us in an unmanageable hole for 10+ years. You're putting this team into a 2003-present Oakland Raiders type of hole.

That's a huge and unnecessary gamble. If a player is shown to be as fickle as it is depending on who's the coach and how they practice, doesn't it make sense that with a new coach in charge (hopefully one who's competent) they will play back at their usual high level?

I'm no football GM, but my theory makes a lot more ****ing sense than the garbage you're proposing.

For the record:

BlackBob's plan going into 2013: No QB, Manti Te'o, no other playmakers around him

Normal people's plan going into 2013: QB, no Manti Te'o, but we get to keep Albert, Flowers, DJ, Hali, Charles, and hopefully Bowe.


DeezNutz 11-12-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9109201)
No dude, I am 100% for drafting QB after QB but, I realize we are starting the rebuild in 2013. You are a true fan because you believe we could go places with guys like Flowers, Bowe, and DJ. Pioli hung his hat on those guys too...

These guys suck.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-12-2012 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9109212)
These guys suck.

LMAO

scho63 11-12-2012 01:24 PM

I'm really scared we will somehow win two more games, against Carolina at home and Cleveland away and once again, fuck up our chance to pick first and drop to 4th or 5th in the draft.

It's the Chief's way-they fail as failing.....

the Talking Can 11-12-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9109196)
Also, why is it so damaging to a team if a QB busts versus a DT or an OT who busts?

Either way you still end up with a busted pick. And it's not like the other positions have the QB beat. You're just as likely to draft a bust WR, DT, OT as you are to draft a bust QB. Except when you draft a QB, the potential rewards are infinitely higher.

BECAUSE IT RISKY THAT WHY

DaKCMan AP 11-12-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 9109219)
I'm really scared we will somehow win two more games, against Carolina at home and Cleveland away and once again, **** up our chance to pick first and drop to 4th or 5th in the draft.

It's the Chief's way-they fail as failing.....

You think we're going to stop Cam Newton?

Did you see what Carolina's d-line did to RGIII? They're going to eat whomever we start at QB for lunch.

Cleveland should beat us too. We're the worst team in football along with Jacksonville and it's really not close.

Woodchuck 11-12-2012 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9109212)
These guys suck.

Championship!ROFL

Sorter 11-12-2012 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Woodsponge Chuckpants (Post 9109099)
Hasselback
Wilson
McCarron

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