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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 12304505)

We could have re-signed Cueto and Zobrist for the same money we spent on those three. Granted, there would be a couple more expensive years towards the end of those deals.

Zobrist wanted to play for Maddon so I don't think that he was truly an option to re-sign.

Cueto, from my POV, appears to be one of those guys better suited for the NL than the AL.

It's impossible to know for certain but I think that signing Cueto would have been a major mistake.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12304537)

I wouldn't have signed Cueto either. Zobrist, though, I would have been willing to over-pay. Position of need+ good, patient bat.

Royals 4th place in the AL Central :(

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12304537)

Did we just agree on a baseball related topic in 2016? Dude.

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 12304259)

I don't think it was luck. Dayton is a good GM. I do believe, however, that he absolutely out-smarted himself into thinking he could manage the season with Medlen and Young both being in the starting rotation. I also think that he way over-valued Gordon's presence on this team. That 4-year deal was friendly to KC, but he's a luxury we can't afford. His great Defensive play can't make up for a shitty starting rotation combined with his awful offensive production.

I think it is both. He is a good GM, but he has had alot of luck the past couple of seasons. He took fliers on guys nobody really wanted that came up roses and now things are beginning to even out.

Even after Bubba Starlings blistering start at AAA, already only hitting .235

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Originally Posted by kgrund (Post 12304587)

I think it is both. He is a good GM, but he has had alot of luck the past couple of seasons. He took fliers on guys nobody really wanted that came up roses and now things are beginning to even out.

Back to back WS and 1 championship. I'll "settle" for this if I were him.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12304537)

100% all of this

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 12304525)

I seriously doubt that.

Agreed. Tickets sold because we went back-to-back WS and won last year. Tickets were going to be the same regardless of the Gordon signing

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12304582)

Did we just agree on a baseball related topic in 2016? Dude.

Lmao, I had the same thought actually re:dano...

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 12304582)

Did we just agree on a baseball related topic in 2016? Dude.

Oh man! My bad. I should have worded it differently.

:evil:

When I was a kid 4-man rotations were pretty common, and pitchers routinely pitched CGs and into the 8th inning.

So now why does everyone have to be on a 5-man rotation when pitchers rarely make it to the 7th (in the Royals case anyway)?

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12304782)

Velocity, effort, and training styles.

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 12304505)

We could have re-signed Cueto and Zobrist for the same money we spent on those three. Granted, there would be a couple more expensive years towards the end of those deals.

I think it's fair to say substituting Kennedy with Cueto in the rotation would be an upgrade and Zobrist at the top of the lineup instead of Gordon would have made the offense more consistent. In spite of injuries, I think the Royals would have been okay w/o Soria and his 8 mil. a year.

Whit is coming back down to earth. Dyson in left, although not a long term replacement, would have made a capable defensive replacement for Gordon.

Hindsight being 20/20 and all . . . . .

Anybody who bitches about the Royals not re-signing Cueto and Zobrist is an idiot.

Ben Zobrist wanted to go play for Joe Madden and the Cubbies. And even if he hadn't been determined to go to the Cubs, would you really have been happy if Dayton Moore had given a $56 million contract to a 35 year old with a career batting average of .265?

And it would have been complete lunacy for a small market team to pay $120 million to a guy who was as unreliable as Cueto was last year. The Giants could afford to take a chance. The Royals couldn't.

20/20 hindsight is remarkably accurate. Who really thought Zobrist would be an MVP candidate and Cueto would be a Cy Young candidate? Did you?

I feel like the Royals should be in sell mode. There are a couple of players that could bring back some good prospects. Herrera being at the top of that list. Volquez is also on that list as well.