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RealSNR 11-16-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9122480)
I would add this:

1. Obtain Romo if available as stop-gap (his movements within the pocket would be great for Geno to learn from)
2. Obtain a pass rusher at the 3-tech and another pass rushing OLB via draft
3. Get corner and ILB via FA or the draft
4. Start Breaston at the #2 WR spot and draft a potential upgrade.
5. Obtain another viable nickel/slot corner via draft/FA as well as safety.

I probably should have left off #6. That's when we start tinkering around with draft picks, which isn't really the point of the checklist. I mean, once Geno gets drafted, the preparation is over, and all those guys/acquisitions are likely going to come through the draft AFTER the Geno pick.

I like all those ideas, though. Once Draft Planet gets going, they can form a separate list, one that will have the input of several different minds

Sorter 11-16-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 9122489)
I probably should have left off #6. That's when we start tinkering around with draft picks, which isn't really the point of the checklist. I mean, once Geno gets drafted, the preparation is over, and all those guys/acquisitions are likely going to come through the draft AFTER the Geno pick.

I like all those ideas, though. Once Draft Planet gets going, they can form a separate list, one that will have the input of several different minds

Oh, it shall be done mon frere.

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BossChief 11-16-2012 01:28 AM

If we hire a guy like Bruce Arians to be the HC (cough, cough) and he brings in a DC that runs a 3-4 zone blitzing scheme similar to what Pittsburgh runs, a DL of

Poe LE
Powe NT
Bailey RE

Has some serious potential to get after people...especially with the set of linebackers we have playing behind them.

Sorter 11-16-2012 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9122511)
If we hire a guy like Bruce Arians to be the HC (cough, cough) and he brings in a DC that runs a 3-4 zone blitzing scheme similar to what Pittsburgh runs, a DL of

Poe LE
Powe NT
Bailey RE

Has some serious potential to get after people...especially with the set of linebackers we have playing behind them.

****. YES.

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BossChief 11-16-2012 01:33 AM

hahahaha

Hammock Parties 11-16-2012 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9122511)
If we hire a guy like Bruce Arians to be the HC (cough, cough) and he brings in a DC that runs a 3-4 zone blitzing scheme similar to what Pittsburgh runs, a DL of

Poe LE
Powe NT
Bailey RE

Has some serious potential to get after people...especially with the set of linebackers we have playing behind them.

The problem with this is Powe and Bailey have not shown much at all.

You are grasping at ghosts.

Sorter 11-16-2012 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9122525)
The problem with this is Powe and Bailey have not shown much at all.

You are grasping at ghosts.

You don't think Powe has displayed flashes to be an adequate shaded 1-tech?

I'll admit (even though I'm a Bailey nut hugger) that he probably isn't the answer at the 3-tech in a 1-gap. You really don't think Powe could be productive as a 1-gap NT? I don't think he'll be great but provide enough penetration from base fronts to be effective.

Hammock Parties 11-16-2012 02:42 AM

We have seen so little from him we really have no way of knowing.

You're literally basing this off a handful of good snaps.

Sorter 11-16-2012 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9122531)
We have seen so little from him we really have no way of knowing.

You're literally basing this off a handful of good snaps.

His bad snaps as well. I think that he is a poor 2-gap player (slow recognition in pass v. run) but can displays a quality first step and rip to penetrate.

As I said, I don't think Powe is the answer, but he could be productive or a stop-gap.

Sorter 11-16-2012 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 9122531)
We have seen so little from him we really have no way of knowing.

You're literally basing this off a handful of good snaps.

Plus, I'll admit I like seeing guys from lower draft spots do well. I do like Jerrel and wish we played him as our shaded 1 in our sub pckg.

keg in kc 11-16-2012 02:50 AM

I don't get the fascination with playing Poe at end. I think I'd rather keep the freakishly strong 6'3, 350 pound guy in the middle.

Sorter 11-16-2012 02:55 AM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9122536)
I don't get the fascination with playing Poe at end. I think I'd rather keep the freakishly strong 6'3, 350 pound guy in the middle.

He presents a significant mismatch at the 3-tech if he pans out. Think JJ Watt/ Justin Smith but huge. Keep in mind this is only in a 1-gap with Poe playing the 3-tech, which is what he plays on sub packages on occassion.

Woodchuck 11-16-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 9122511)
If we hire a guy like Bruce Arians to be the HC (cough, cough) and he brings in a DC that runs a 3-4 zone blitzing scheme similar to what Pittsburgh runs, a DL of

Poe LE
Powe NT
Bailey RE

Has some serious potential to get after people...especially with the set of linebackers we have playing behind them.

Have Powe and Bailey really done enough to warrant being penciled in as future starters? I don't think so. Neither has really done jack shit imo.

Hell, it's hard to even predict if either will make the team with a new coach imo.

Chris Meck 11-16-2012 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Sorter (Post 9122538)
He presents a significant mismatch at the 3-tech if he pans out. Think JJ Watt/ Justin Smith but huge. Keep in mind this is only in a 1-gap with Poe playing the 3-tech, which is what he plays on sub packages on occassion.

But he's an ENTIRELY different player. He's nothing at all like Watt or Smith. Bailey is literally much, much more like Watt or Smith.

You can (and most do) rotate your DL many different ways to show different looks and give guys a breather, but I think Poe and Powe are your NT rotation, and Powe could occasionally spell a DE as well. I think Poe is in the middle anytime he's in the game and I think he belongs there.

Pitty, Jackson, Smith, and Bailey are actually a reasonable rotation at DE. Draft a guy or two in the mid rounds to compete and move on. Defensively, this team is not that far away, and the problems it does have aren't in the front 3 anymore, IMO.

suds79 11-16-2012 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 9122536)
I don't get the fascination with playing Poe at end. I think I'd rather keep the freakishly strong 6'3, 350 pound guy in the middle.

This. I mean what are people thinking.

NT in a 3-4? - Vitality important in a 3-4. You hear it all the time. We waited for years and not finally have one. Now we want to move him? No thank you.

DE ? - Meh you can fill that position with cheap FA guys. (ex: Pitoitua) ie - not important.


Hey while we're at it lets finally get that Albert to LG move done. :spank:


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