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Indian Chief 07-09-2016 11:54 AM

Sonny Gray is not the savior you are looking for.

tk13 07-09-2016 12:10 PM

One thing about Gray is he's under contract through the rest of the decade, so you'd have a lot of control.

Prison Bitch 07-09-2016 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 12307761)
Drink more Makers.

Smile.

It definitely helped when I began Ned's post game comments. For the 80th straight time he began "I thought he threw the ball really well". Then I stopped and hit delete on the guide

suzzer99 07-09-2016 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Chief (Post 12308209)
Sonny Gray is not the savior you are looking for.

Is he better than Young?

WhawhaWhat 07-09-2016 01:47 PM

KC Stormchasers lineup

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Bowser 07-09-2016 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12308329)
Is he better than Young?

Drew Butera is better than Young

Deberg_1990 07-09-2016 01:51 PM

Paulo in center? Has he ever played there?

C3HIEF3S 07-09-2016 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99 (Post 12308329)
Is he better than Young?

Gray's problem this year, from what I can tell, is his command on his secondary pitches. He can't throw those for strikes worth anything, so hitters can completely eliminate the soft stuff and jump all over his fastball. His velocity is fine, same as it was last season, around 93 mph on average. However, opponents are hitting .293 on that fastball this season. Opposed to: .269 in 2015, .259 in 2014, .260 in 2013.
He also has a two-seam fastball that is getting hit even harder. He has thrown in 350 times this season and opponents are hitting .350 off of that pitch. As opposed to: .262 in 2015, and .272 in 2014.

EDIT:
Here is Gray's heatmap on his secondary pitches against RHB in 2016:
http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.as...,SL&season=all

Compared to his 2014 + 2015 seasons:
http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.as...,SL&season=all

LHB 2016:
http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.as...,SL&season=all

LHB 2014 + 2015:
http://www.fangraphs.com/zonegrid.as...,SL&season=all

It should be a fixable problem, and I would personally jump on it with the right deal because of his track record.

WhawhaWhat 07-09-2016 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12308396)
Paulo in center? Has he ever played there?

2 days ago.

Deberg_1990 07-09-2016 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 12308400)
2 days ago.

heh, ok....i havent watched the past 2 or 3 games

Sure-Oz 07-09-2016 03:02 PM

Wonder who they'd have to give up to get Gray

Great Expectations 07-09-2016 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 12308153)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jason Vargas sim game set for today, Progressing well says Ned Yost and could be back in Sept.</p>&mdash; Blair Kerkhoff (@BlairKerkhoff) <a href="https://twitter.com/BlairKerkhoff/status/751825948341891073">July 9, 2016</a></blockquote>
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How would that effect our insurance policy?

duncan_idaho 07-09-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 12308473)
Wonder who they'd have to give up to get Gray



Mondesi.

It won't happen.


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C3HIEF3S 07-09-2016 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12309060)
Mondesi.

It won't happen.


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Pitt Gorilla 07-09-2016 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 12309060)
Mondesi.

It won't happen.


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Thank God.


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