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Rudy tossed tigger's salad 12-01-2010 02:37 AM
Jesus, you'd think Moeaki was a wide open Greg Jennings on that play against the Texans.

KcFanInGA 12-01-2010 02:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7213505)
Wins over NFC West teams do not prove that the Chiefs are not frauds.

They remain frauds until they make the playoffs and prove they belong in the playoffs.
Why does it matter what division we were playing? We looked good out there. This is the NFL. Any team can win on any given Sunday. There are no sure bets. A 32 ranked D can dominate a 1 ranked Offense at any time. 7 and 4 is our record. It is what it is. I'm just glad we are winning games.

Hootie 12-01-2010 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7214164)
Yeah, he's been terrible.

Like that game where he drove the field in Indy to force OT, then went and won it.

Like that game where he played with a torn ACL.

For the most part, he's played pretty damn well in the playoffs.

Last three years he's completed 61%, thrown for 320 a game, and has a level TD/INT ratio.

Again, Rivers has proven he's a franchise QB.

Another reeruned comparison.
whoa whoa whoa whoa

but has he won the big one?

because that's what everyone used to say about Manning and why he was a choker...

so why isn't Philip a choker then?

tonyetony 12-01-2010 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon (Post 7215156)
whoa whoa whoa whoa

but has he won the big one?

because that's what everyone used to say about Manning and why he was a choker...

so why isn't Philip a choker then?
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0_playoffs.htm


Because OTW can cherry pick his stats from the last 3 playoff years. When the Chargers made the AFC championship game Rivers had a great line and lots of weapons surrounding him. Football is the ultimate team sport and even franchise QB's need all the pieces to compete in the Super Bowl. I don't think we're there yet but it sure looks like we're headed in the right direction.

Pasta Little Brioni 12-01-2010 08:32 AM
This thread is like beating your head against a brick wall expecting the wall to budge.

Chief Henry 12-01-2010 08:48 AM
1993 is the last year this team has won a Playoff game.

How old is Joe Montana today ?

The brain trust of this team sees the big picture imo.

Chief Henry 12-01-2010 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by PGM (Post 7215264)
This thread is like beating your head against a brick wall expecting the wall to budge.

17 seasons w/o a playoff win will tend to get fans edgy. All of us want the same thing. Lets hope like hell we have the QB and the coaching staff to put all 3 areas of a great football team togeather in the same season, soon.

patteeu 12-01-2010 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 7214233)
Oh thank you masterful one. You proved me wrong. Cassel actually got 1 first down... Hit the showers Cassel, you've done your job.
Even if we limit ourselves to the first three drives (which you didn't in your original, woefully inaccurate statement), Cassel got 2 first downs, not 1.

Please try to check your own facts. I'm not your mommy.

Extra Point 12-01-2010 09:04 AM
Having a running game always helps. Crennel is going to have to get his crew to fit into some tights and put on capes, so Cassel can stay on the field.

TheGuardian 12-01-2010 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7214164)
Yeah, he's been terrible.

Like that game where he drove the field in Indy to force OT, then went and won it.

Like that game where he played with a torn ACL.

For the most part, he's played pretty damn well in the playoffs.

Last three years he's completed 61%, thrown for 320 a game, and has a level TD/INT ratio.

Again, Rivers has proven he's a franchise QB.

Another reeruned comparison.
Rivers in the playoffs -

2006 - 0-1

2007 - 2-1

2008 - 1-1

2009 - 0-1

That's a 3-4 playoff record. So he has a losing record in the playoffs.

His combined playoff numbers -

58% completion percentage - not good

8 TD's 9 picks - not good

79 QB rating - not good

So "for the most part" he has NOT played pretty well in the playoffs.

But again, as noted by others, you love to cherry pick your stats. Rivers has been, for his career, a below average playoff QB. Fact. stfu about it.

zonachief 12-01-2010 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 7214503)
the thing with Brady Manning and Orton is they dont have good run games. At least nothing close to what the Chiefs have. Indy and Denver i know for a fact have crappy running games. Not to sure on N.E, but since Danny Woodhead is their running back, i am sure its pretty much all Tom. We have a running back that is doing something that no one since what Jim Brown is doing with a 6.2 ypc.

We have another demension them teams dont have right now imo. Are they going to stack the box are are they going to double on Bowe? hmmm..
Brady has BenJarvus Green-Ellis. Who is top 5 in rushing TD's.

Hootie 12-01-2010 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 7215230)
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...0_playoffs.htm


Because OTW can cherry pick his stats from the last 3 playoff years. When the Chargers made the AFC championship game Rivers had a great line and lots of weapons surrounding him. Football is the ultimate team sport and even franchise QB's need all the pieces to compete in the Super Bowl. I don't think we're there yet but it sure looks like we're headed in the right direction.
It's funny that the same Manning bashers on this board tell us how great Philip Rivers is in the playoffs and what not!

Christ almighty.

Hootie 12-01-2010 10:47 AM
that's classic...

I think Rivers is a great QB...a great, great QB...

but the reason why Brady was so much "better" than Manning was because he STRIVED in the playoffs...and his numbers got so much better (myth)...

yet those same bashers are here to tell us how clutch Philip Rivers has been in the playoffs...and how much success he's had despite the fact they were probably favorites to win it all JUST last year...

but yeah...

Rivers is A CLUTCH GOD!

(and it has nothing to do with the play of Rivers...just goes to show that you can win or lose despite the play of your franchise QB...)

Ming the Merciless 12-02-2010 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 7213751)
Cassel has looked like a completely different QB starting with the 2nd half of the Denver game.

Anyone who knows anything about football and the QB position can determine this easily.
I guess those in charge of AFC Player of the month don't know shit about football?

Hootie 12-02-2010 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Pawnmower (Post 7218044)
I guess those in charge of AFC Player of the month don't know shit about football?
only OTWP, Mecca, Hamas and Dane know anything about football...Milkman is the only "true fan" they'll acknowledge.


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