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Hammock Parties 09-21-2012 03:31 AM

Some people just don't get it.

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I HATE excuses, and this team looks like absolute crap, but the coaches and players of THIS YEAR’s team have had very little time together in the newly established roles. It was folly to expect ANYONE named the HC after Haley to come out and do much of anything this season to be completely honest.

Crennel might very well be a terrible HC, and the players just may not have as much talent as we thought they did – but this is their first season together, period. This perspective cannot continue to be overlooked by anyone. We’re all sick of being irrelevant, but expecting no problems this year was horribly short-sighted by way too many people.

jspchief 09-21-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8932308)
**** you LIAR. It's about Carr and 30% rule ****er

Are you really this stupid?

That 30% rule refers to the tender for a FRANCHISE TAG for an UNRESTRICTED free agent.

The 1st round tender they placed on Brandon Carr was a RESTRICTED free agent tender.

You need to educate yourself on the difference between restricted and unrestricted free agents.

In the 2011 free agency period, Carr was a restricted free agent. At that point, the Chiefs are allowed to place a tender on Carr. Carr can negotiate with other teams, but the Chiefs have a right to match any offer. If the Chiefs decide to not match another team's offer, that team must give KC a draft pick that corresponds with the draft pick tender they placed on Carr. In other words, once the chiefs placed a 1st round tender on Carr, any team that wanted to sign Carr while he was a restricted free agent forfeits a 1st round pick to KC.

That tender has absolutely zero bearing on what happens to Carr in the 2012 free agency period, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent. That tender is not what makes Carr an unrestricted free agent. He becomes unrestricted by nature of serving his 4th year in the league.

The 30% stuff that you are talking about is related to a franchise tag tender which is in no way related/tied to the UFA tender. They are two completely different kinds of tenders.

You are an idiot and have wasted several posts arguing with Dane over something you are completely ****ing confused about.

007 09-21-2012 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8932464)
Are you really this stupid?

That 30% rule refers to the tender for a FRANCHISE TAG for an UNRESTRICTED free agent.

The 1st round tender they placed on Brandon Carr was a RESTRICTED free agent tender.

You need to educate yourself on the difference between restricted and unrestricted free agents.

In the 2011 free agency period, Carr was a restricted free agent. At that point, the Chiefs are allowed to place a tender on Carr. Carr can negotiate with other teams, but the Chiefs have a right to match any offer. If the Chiefs decide to not match another team's offer, that team must give KC a draft pick that corresponds with the draft pick tender they placed on Carr. In other words, once the chiefs placed a 1st round tender on Carr, any team that wanted to sign Carr while he was a restricted free agent forfeits a 1st round pick to KC.

That tender has absolutely zero bearing on what happens to Carr in the 2012 free agency period, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent. That tender is not what makes Carr an unrestricted free agent. He becomes unrestricted by nature of serving his 4th year in the league.

The 30% stuff that you are talking about is related to a franchise tag tender which is in no way related/tied to the UFA tender. They are two completely different kinds of tenders.

You are an idiot and have wasted several posts arguing with Dane over something you are completely ****ing confused about.

Exercise in futility my friend. He will never get it.

Nzoner 09-21-2012 07:05 AM

I know CP encourages new membership and the like but I think it's time that we had some kind of a test one must pass to become a full fledged member.

Dave Lane 09-21-2012 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8932289)
I have to say, in my 12+ years as a member of Chiefsplanet, I've never come across someone as asinine and delusional as yourself.

What planet are you from?

Oh, and yes, as everyone else pointed out, YOU ARE ****ING WRONG!

Dude is setting a bar that gonna be impossible for future n00bs to ever feel like they have a shot at surpassing. His first 4 months are the stuff of reerun legends.

mcaj22 09-21-2012 07:23 AM

has there been a CP Noob of the year contest/award/vote yet. I know there is something like that around here, but anyway this year you dont even have to go through all the trouble of making a thread and nominating users just hand the trophy to BlackBob

Molitoth 09-21-2012 07:33 AM

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I HATE excuses, and this team looks like absolute crap, but the coaches and players of THIS YEAR’s team have had very little time together in the newly established roles. It was folly to expect ANYONE named the HC after Haley to come out and do much of anything this season to be completely honest.

Crennel might very well be a terrible HC, and the players just may not have as much talent as we thought they did – but this is their first season together, period. This perspective cannot continue to be overlooked by anyone. We’re all sick of being irrelevant, but expecting no problems this year was horribly short-sighted by way too many people.
Signed: Jim Harbaugh

ottawa_chiefs_fan 09-21-2012 08:01 AM

FYP

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 8932545)
I know the Internet encourages new membership and the like but I think it's time that we had some kind of a test one must pass to become a full fledged member.


Molitoth 09-21-2012 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner
I know the Internet encourages new membership and the like but I think it's time that we had some kind of a test one must pass to become a full fledged member.
Or a Messageboard roadmap.

Do you like Cassel?

If No then GOTO Chiefsplanet.
If YES then GOTO Chiefscoallition

Etc...

Black Bob 09-21-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8932464)
Are you really this stupid?

That 30% rule refers to the tender for a FRANCHISE TAG for an UNRESTRICTED free agent.

The 1st round tender they placed on Brandon Carr was a RESTRICTED free agent tender.

You need to educate yourself on the difference between restricted and unrestricted free agents.

In the 2011 free agency period, Carr was a restricted free agent. At that point, the Chiefs are allowed to place a tender on Carr. Carr can negotiate with other teams, but the Chiefs have a right to match any offer. If the Chiefs decide to not match another team's offer, that team must give KC a draft pick that corresponds with the draft pick tender they placed on Carr. In other words, once the chiefs placed a 1st round tender on Carr, any team that wanted to sign Carr while he was a restricted free agent forfeits a 1st round pick to KC.

That tender has absolutely zero bearing on what happens to Carr in the 2012 free agency period, when he becomes an unrestricted free agent. That tender is not what makes Carr an unrestricted free agent. He becomes unrestricted by nature of serving his 4th year in the league.

The 30% stuff that you are talking about is related to a franchise tag tender which is in no way related/tied to the UFA tender. They are two completely different kinds of tenders.

You are an idiot and have wasted several posts arguing with Dane over something you are completely ****ing confused about.

You're an idiot. Read my post. "The 30% rule" has NOTHING to do with TENDERS. The argument was that he had to reach UFA status before we could attempt to resign him bcause the raise he got was over 30% of his 2010 salary. That is called the 30% rule and I posted a link.

Yes, we could have signed to a bigger contract IF a team had offered him a deal and we wanted to match it but that was the only way we could have tried to sign him before March. No one offered and therefore the 30% rule was in effect. In fact it was in effect by the old cba definition for 2011 as part of the new cba agreement.

Dane's argument was that we could resign him and he was ****ing wrong. We never had a shot until he hit the UFA market. The players love this rule. They always have. Sometimes guys even get released because of it. The 30% rule was a different angle I was taking to the same fact.

THE FACT THAT WE COULD NOT RESIGN CARR UNTIL MARCH.

Don't try and spin this. You don't know the whole deal either but, just like Dane, you should. I described it in detail and gave a link you dumb ****. Hell, I even posted a link to the CP discussion about it months ago.

This exactly the sort of thing I am talking about. People don't read around here. There is a whole ****ing section in the cba about the "30 PERCENT RULE."

Black Bob 09-21-2012 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth (Post 8932632)
Or a Messageboard roadmap.

Do you like Cassel?

If No then GOTO Chiefsplanet.
If YES then GOTO Chiefscoallition

Etc...

Yeah, there are really Chiefs fans that are still out there that think Matt Cassel is the answer....

What a ****ing dumbass you are.LMAO

Nzoner 09-21-2012 09:54 AM

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Urc Burry 09-21-2012 10:00 AM

Blackbob is right about B. Carr. It was pretty widely known that we couldn't sign Carr until March. And he took his dream job for the cowboys

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2012 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8932663)
Dane's argument was that we could resign him and he was ****ing wrong. We never had a shot until he hit the UFA market. The players love this rule. They always have. Sometimes guys even get released because of it. The 30% rule was a different angle I was taking to the same fact.

No, it wasn't, you ****ing illiterate Mongoloid. This is EXACTLY what I said:

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8925474)
Carr's agent and Pioli could have negotiated a contract, which Carr could have signed the minute the season was over.

It didn't happen.

Now, get back to double-teaming your Mom and favorite Aunt.

DaneMcCloud 09-21-2012 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry (Post 8932853)
Blackbob is right about B. Carr. It was pretty widely known that we couldn't sign Carr until March. And he took his dream job for the cowboys

Blackbob is a drooling, blabbering Mongo.

STFU


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