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PhillyChiefFan 01-01-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 9264719)
JFC give him some time to do something

This. It's Black Monday + 1...realizing we are all Chiefs fans here and are desperate for big changes, I'm not willing to hit the panic button 2 days after the end of the regular season.

SAUTO 01-01-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9265540)
If you have a son who simply hangs around your business, never really gets his hands dirty or pays extreme attention, would he have your level of expertise?

most accounts don't have him just "hanging around" most have him pegged as groomed for this.

If I was grooming my son I would teach him about it.
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aturnis 01-01-2013 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 9265514)
Everyone jizzed their shorts over Jim Zorn.

Why?

He was a QB guy. He'll fix everything.


You don't need a QB guy as the HC.

Then we saw what Harbaugh saw...

NJChiefsFan 01-01-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9265544)
Should I trust some guy? I'd rather trust Gruden.

The guy that loves every QB including Cassel, Tebow, and Alex Smith?

aturnis 01-01-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9265516)
The problem with Hunt bypassing the front office in hiring a coach is his lack of knowledge about football. I mean that is what a front office is for. If you are going to do it Clark's way, you need to do what San Diego did, and bring in a Ron Wolf as a hiring consultant.

In a sense, I don't think he is telling the truth about it being his baby -- he is either leaning on Pioli or he has all but fired Pioli and is leaning on someone like Marty.

Bypassing the front office for the most important decision they make without cleaning house makes no sense unless there is already a new shadow GM.

You think he's doing this alone?

OnTheWarpath15 01-01-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9265544)
Should I trust some guy? I'd rather trust Gruden.

Who exactly has Gruden developed?

Dude collected QB's like stamps, but I don't recall any of them being any good.

Hell, he's spent more time coaching WR's than QB's.

chiefzilla1501 01-01-2013 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9265532)
QBs in the first half of the first are generally thought to have game-manager upside.

FFS, man. Are we just going to make up anything now?

Roethlisberger was viewed as a talented prospect. There were concerns about his transition due to system and quality of opponents, but the Steelers had the balls to draft him. It wasn't easy, I'm sure. It never is because of the damn near insurmountable amount of stupid ****ing fans who cry about the "risky nature" of drafting QBs.

You're not listening. Cowher spent his entire career building around a power running game and a game manager qb. His offensive philosophy is to run first, throw conservative, then take a few big chances when the defense falls asleep.

Big Ben was a great value pick. Yeah, kudos to the steelers for making that pick. But you are making a wild leap in assuming cowher drafted Ben to lead the team versus being a perfect game manager. It is over simplistic to suggest that one pick at the end of his career suddenly makes him praise the gospel of franchise quarterback. Again, do you not see a scenario where his top guy would be Alex smith? Because Alex smith is a lot more like his prototypical qb than Geno smith is.

FringeNC 01-01-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO (Post 9265534)
Clark grew up in the football business.

I think his lack of knowledge is wildly overstated
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If he was shocked that Pioli and Haley had problems, he's clueless. Even casual football fans knew that.

FringeNC 01-01-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9265558)
You think he's doing this alone?

No, in fact, that was my point is that it is not.

KC kid 01-01-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 9265558)
You think he's doing this alone?

Clark Hunt said in an interview with KCTV 5 that there was a search committee to find the next coach. He put a timetable out there of a couple weeks. . . . I would be surprised if it was really a couple weeks and Clark was just giving them some padding. He made it sound like the search committee would have Pioli on it. He did not say this specifically, but it was in regards to a question about Pioli's role in the search

SAUTO 01-01-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9265566)
If he was shocked that Pioli and Haley had problems, he's clueless. Even casual football fans knew that.

there's a difference.
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Mr. Laz 01-01-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls (Post 9265262)

No "big shot HC" hire happening here. Only a fool or bottom feeder will sign Clark's flimsy dotted line because everybody in the NFL fears SOC folks now & Pioli has one last stand.

nobody in the NFL gives a single shit about SOC, if they even know what it is

Hunt wants his fan base to buy tickets, that's it


SOC?!?!

****ing please ... ROFL

Chief Faithful 01-01-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC (Post 9265516)
The problem with Hunt bypassing the front office in hiring a coach is his lack of knowledge about football. I mean that is what a front office is for. If you are going to do it Clark's way, you need to do what San Diego did, and bring in a Ron Wolf as a hiring consultant.

In a sense, I don't think he is telling the truth about it being his baby -- he is either leaning on Pioli or he has all but fired Pioli and is leaning on someone like Marty.

Bypassing the front office for the most important decision they make without cleaning house makes no sense unless there is already a new shadow GM.

That is a very odd analysis. Clark Hunt grew up in the center of the NFL universe his family part of the very fabric of the league. Clark Hunt is more connected than Ron Wolf will ever be and is engaged in discussions with other owners at a level few GM's are invited to witness. All he has to do is ask and there are a legion of consultants with the best NFL pedigree at his finger tips. Clark Hunt does not need Scott Pioli it is the other way around.

Clark Hunt trusts Marty Schottenhiemer and I hope he is making use of that relationship as Marty will give good advice.

DeezNutz 01-01-2013 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 9265563)
You're not listening. Cowher spent his entire career building around a power running game and a game manager qb. His offensive philosophy is to run first, throw conservative, then take a few big chances when the defense falls asleep.

Big Ben was a great value pick. Yeah, kudos to the steelers for making that pick. But you are making a wild leap in assuming cowher drafted Ben to lead the team versus being a perfect game manager. It is over simplistic to suggest that one pick at the end of his career suddenly makes him praise the gospel of franchise quarterback. Again, do you not see a scenario where his top guy would be Alex smith? Because Alex smith is a lot more like his prototypical qb than Geno smith is.

The thought process for many with respect to Cowher is that this is someone who has seen and should understand the development of the league. Yes, he emphasized a power running game for the majority of his career. He also never won a SB until he acquired a franchise QB, and this should have been instructive.

I think Alex Smith is a possibility no matter what coach we bring in, but I also firmly believe that the Chiefs will draft a QB, too. It might not be 1/1, though, and this will cause an immediate meltdown. But I could see Smith plus a QB in round 2, with an open competition in camp.

I could see this as being more a possibility, actually, if Gruden is hired because he had a reputation of being an insufferable SOB with rookie QBs. Has this changed? No clue. But he hosts QB Camp, an ESPN construction, so people believe he has.

KC kid 01-01-2013 06:00 PM

SOC is a joke


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