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O.city 07-26-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9837317)
Who gives a shit what STL wants or needs? I don't, and I doubt many Royals fans do either. If they want to pick up a guy who's 8th in the al in era with a 1.08 whip then they'll have to pay up. If not who cares, they go with what they have. You can't fool your way to his numbers this year.


But it's really Santana and a sandwich pick from what I've heard so it ain't "2 months" only. That's false

Then I'm curious as to why his numbers have been what they've been other than this year and if they will continue at this years level.

If he could/would be what he's been up to this point in KC, for say, the next 2 years, yeah I make that deal.

However, i don't necessarily think thats something that will happen.

Sure-Oz 07-26-2013 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9837304)
Pretty simple: Moore, who is a mother****ing idiot, has no confidence in Gio, so this player essentially doesn't exist for the Royals.

The Royals aren't doing shit this year. They might make a run, but the math isn't in their favor, and they're not re-signing Santana. Thus, they need to move this highly marketable piece for something that legitimately helps the club in '14.

And Wong would do this. No, he's not a world-beater, but I think he'd be a viable starter on a contending club.

I'm just hoping a club comes out that throws out an offer he can't refuse. It'd be stupid to hang onto Santana.

O.city 07-26-2013 09:46 PM

And I dont' even know what he's going to want in terms of a contract this offseason. Do you guys have any idea?

DeezNutz 07-26-2013 09:46 PM

A team moves for Santana who wants to win big this year. That's it. Plain and simple. And if you can win big, there's no price too high.

Prison Bitch 07-26-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9837327)
Then I'm curious as to why his numbers have been what they've been other than this year and if they will continue at this years level.

If he could/would be what he's been up to this point in KC, for say, the next 2 years, yeah I make that deal.

However, i don't necessarily think thats something that will happen.

Santana had had several excellent seasons so I don't know your point here. We bought him on the dip and it worked. If last year mattered then Verlader woul still be the best starter in baseball, not the dude getting rocked constantly

DeezNutz 07-26-2013 09:48 PM

I mean, I'd want to head into a series with Lynn as my #2, too, so it's cool.

O.city 07-26-2013 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9837330)
A team moves for Santana who wants to win big this year. That's it. Plain and simple. And if you can win big, there's no price too high.

True.


But IMO, at this point, I'd rather move for Peavy because he helps win big this year and next year without a new deal.

DeezNutz 07-26-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9837343)
True.


But IMO, at this point, I'd rather move for Peavy because he helps win big this year and next year without a new deal.

And a shit ton of money for a player with a history of injuries.

O.city 07-26-2013 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 9837339)
Santana had had several excellent seasons so I don't know your point here. We bought him on the dip and it worked. If last year mattered then Verlader woul still be the best starter in baseball, not the dude getting rocked constantly

Do you think Santana is a 2.5 WAR pitcher next year?

Cause if he is, sign me up.

O.city 07-26-2013 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9837341)
I mean, I'd want to head into a series with Lynn as my #2, too, so it's cool.

He's the 3 actually.

DeezNutz 07-26-2013 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9837348)
He's the 3 actually.

Then you're set with that vaunted two-man rotation, assuming the n00b doesn't shit himself.

Prison Bitch 07-26-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9837345)
Do you think Santana is a 2.5 WAR pitcher next year?

Well he's more like a 4 war this year and obv that's all I care about since he is gone regardless. Given his age and prior success in MLB I'd suspect 2.5 war would be near the low end and someone is going to pony up big cash for him, maybe Mets or Baltimore, someone like that.

I'd rather have him + sandwich pick than a 2B with mediocre projectability

DeezNutz 07-26-2013 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 9837345)
Do you think Santana is a 2.5 WAR pitcher next year?

WAR is cumulative, so he's trending for 4 WAR this year. At his best he's been 5, so I'd anticipate 3, pretty safely, which he's done on several occasions.

Sure-Oz 07-26-2013 09:54 PM

Santana has been cruising all season....no reason to think he's going to falter. He's def. better than having Peavy the rest of the season or Garza

O.city 07-26-2013 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 9837354)
Then you're set with that vaunted two-man rotation, assuming the n00b doesn't shit himself.

I think Lynns a good enough 3 at this point, but it's going to depend on Miller not sucking and being what he was early.


For better or worse though, because based on what I've read I dont' think the F/O in STL thinks they need another starter so we'll find out.


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